rw78
Hi, 

I'm about to buy this Gravel frame from Tan Tan (unless anyone is about to tell me it is complete junk!!):

http://www.tantancycling.com/index.php?_m=mod_product&_a=view&p_id=561
Seraph GR029.jpg 
I thought I would update folk on build as it goes along (be warned, it will be a slow burn as work is busy at the moment) but I thought it might be useful or interesting for anyone else considering this frame. 

I've not been able to find much online (there's probably a thread on this very forum that I've missed  - point it out if so and I will delete this one!).

Cheers


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rw78
Something I've really been struggling with with trying to find some alternative thru axles for this frame to replace the heavy ones the Tan Tan produce for it:

https://fr.aliexpress.com/store/product/Through-axle-142-12MM-and-100-15MM-mtb-quick-release-carbon-MTB-frame-bicycle-parts/1923199_32479481942.html?spm=2114.12010108.1000023.17.70fb25detSLANF

As the neither the forks or rear drop outs are threaded and therefore require locknuts it seems that the lengths are not standard.
I've found one other manufacturer that produces a set but only for a 15x100mm fork, not the 12x100 I was hoping to go for and a place where they will make custom sizes.

All of these alternatives are of the screw in type rather than the cam type. Does anyone know if the screw in type thru axles will be suitable for frames that require lock nuts on the thru axles?


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Vlanderen
Hey there,

I realize this is an old thread, but did you end up buying this frame? I have been deciding between the Exploro knock offs from Carbonda, Tidace and Seraph/Tintan (GR030) and the Seraph/Tintan GR029.  I like GR029 b/c of the threaded BB and non-proprietary seatpost with a standard 27.2 clamp. But not sure how the geometry differences will affect the ride. The 29 has a longer chainstay (620 vs 598 Exploro), and slight differences in seat and head tube angle (73 vs 72.5, and 72 vs 71.1)

Also, I can't tell if the current listing has a threaded drop out or not . . is it still a lock nut? http://www.tantancycling.com/index.php?_m=mod_product&_a=view&p_id=579
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rw78
Hey - I never did get round to updating this post!
Yes I bought the frame and it has been great. 'Fraid I cant compare with the Carbonda as   I have no first hand experience of their frames.

The drop outs on the Seraph look the same to me i.e. not threaded. Be careful of this, I bought the thru axles they sell so was fine but trying to source some elsewhere could be a whole world of pain as there are a million different sizes.
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smoothmoose
DIY Carbon Bikes have and Exploro clone too...they import from China, but company/guy is US based.

https://www.diycarbonbikes.com/collections/road-gravel-cx-frames/products/gra700
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Vlanderen
Super. I'm planning for some long gravel rides/races next summer, but would also like to take a dip into some cross races. I think the geometry is a bit more suited to the longer rides, meaning a bit more stable and little less for cornering.

Either way, nice to know that you are a year into it and still going strong.  And I hear ya about the thru axles. It's a nightmare, even with my mtb.
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Vlanderen
[QUOTE username=smoothmoose userid=6525413 postid=1310042073]DIY Carbon Bikes have and Exploro clone too...they import from China, but company/guy is US based.

Thanks. I like the Exploro, but I'd like a BSA BB and a standard round, 27.2 seatpost. Also, from what I have read, the cheaper Chinese knockoffs have problems with the seatposts slipping and even the tubes cracking . .
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