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Dinger
Yeah? Looks like that bike has a short-ish 425mm chain stay (same as checkpoint in short position). They must’ve gotten there with a very flat chainstay profile. Is the rear brake hose internally routed? It’s a pretty cool looking bike. Rides well?
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Tobin
Newer crank PMs like the Stages L (gen3) and 4iiii Podiiiium have lower profile bodies than older models and much better compatibility with all sorts of frames.
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Jim_H
Dinger wrote:
Yeah? Looks like that bike has a short-ish 425mm chain stay (same as checkpoint in short position). They must’ve gotten there with a very flat chainstay profile. Is the rear brake hose internally routed? It’s a pretty cool looking bike. Rides well?


I absolutely love it!  It's a great riding bike.   I excels at so many things.  It's great on tarmac with road plus tires, but is just has happy chugging down a rocky decent.

I don't have a close up of the chain stays, but here is an overall pic with it wearing it's 650b shoes.

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jazzymusicman
zootsuitbass wrote:


     I have one, a SL6. I'm running trigger 45's (barely fits in the back when slammed). A red shift stem,44 wide bontrager bars A RX rear derailleur, 1170 11-36 cassette. XT trail pedals.

     The bike is great except....

     There was not enough clearance to run a stage crank arm power meter.

     Anyone running a power meter? What are you running?

     D


i run a power2max ng eco on mine. it's a crank based power meter so you get a true power reading from both legs instead of a left-only guesstimate. i had to replace the bottom bracket but i think that came out to $35
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zootsuitbass
To be clear the Stages Left side meter that did not work was a newer model.


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wdg1313
To be clear I'm not sure Ive ever seen a "Stages" work even if it fit properly[smile]
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meenanm
Regarding the PM, I have the Stages on a variety of bikes, they all work well and the numbers seem to be consistent across bikes. At least as best I can tell riding the same path on different bikes where possible.  The current generation seals better than the old.  I also have the L/R on my road bike and its working well.  I have the Quarq PM on one of the gravel bikes.  It's numbers seem to be a little higher and I've not found a way to compare against those to PM types.

No clearance issues on my road, TT or gravel frames. 
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sully
jazzymusicman wrote:


i run a power2max ng eco on mine. it's a crank based power meter so you get a true power reading from both legs instead of a left-only guesstimate. i had to replace the bottom bracket but i think that came out to $35


What's the smallest set of chainrings that fit on that?
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jfranci3
Looks like my Crockett frame is getting warrantied. I’m going to try to move over to a Checkpoint.
What’s the experience been with the SL’s ISO rear for not-so-light dudes? I’m 195lb on a 58cm. This would also be a cush road bike alongside my Emonda ALR as well as my non-road bike. Any issues with sand causing problems in there?
What about the BB90? That looks pretty tight on the crankarms. Does that get scraped up? I like the BB86 better because I can run a threaded BB. Do the BB90 cups hold up?
The AL seems like it’ll be better to scrape up and will ride the same as the carbon bike in fat tires. Any other ALR v SL thoughts? 
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jfranci3
sully wrote:


What's the smallest set of chainrings that fit on that?


ive got a P2M on a rotor crankset. The road versions will go down to a 34t on a 110bcd spider. They also have MTB spider units that will run anything. The older units have a triangular battery compartment that you wouldn’t want to run less than 44t with. 
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PaulK
Rudy wrote:
Here is my Checkpoint which was modified after last season with stock parts.


What size is that?
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Rudy
58
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Rudy
Here is my Checkpoint.

My idea is to use a bike from Sundays coffee rides on tarmac to gravel trips around my place. Hence I chose SL6 with 2x11 drivetrain which seemed to be a perfect fit for me.
 
First surprise was a size. I always ride 56 cm but bike fitting session before a purchase shows that - due to Trek's seatmast and my relatively long legs - I need 58. 
Second surprise was a frame. It is really massive. A trust is intensified by a rubber protector near a bottom bracket.
 
After first season I decided to switch a drivetrain to 1x11. I noticed that 2x11 is useless. According to a gear calculator 42 in a front and 11-40 in a rear should be enough to keep a pace on tarmac. But the main benefit of 1x11 is a smooth gravel ride when I do not need to think which chainring in a front is a right one. I really like it.

Next change was a handlebar and stem. Carbon set is extremely stiff! I wonder if it is not too stiff.

Wheelset. A stock one was replaced by DT Swiss XMC 1200 carbon set. 30mm internal width seems to be a perfect fit for 38mm Compass Barlow Pass tyres.

Weight: 8.64 kg (in a current spec, size 58 with 2 bottle cages Bontrager RT, XTR pedals, tire mousse and Garmin pad).
It could be reduced by ~100g by other saddle (here is a stock one - Montrose Comp).

This is my first gravel bike hence I do not have comparison to others. It is difficult to say if a rear Iso Speed works well and if a front one is really missing. I could say that tyres' pressure is a key. If I ride a gravel - 2 PSI works fine. If I ride on a tarmac - 4 PSI seems to be perfect.
 
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