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ChillyWilly

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For those interested, and since I just got mine...
2017 Raleight Roker Comp, 62cm size. As delivered by Raleigh, minus the reflectors. Weighed with a digital luggage scale of unknown accuracy. 20.8 pounds.
I weighed the wheels with my kitchen scale, which is pretty darned accurate. But I was too lazy to strip everything off, so you get weights with tires, tubes, brake rotors, and cassette. 
Front wheel: 1603gm
Rear wheel: 2265gm
My best guess on the weight of the components (tires 485gm, tubes ~150gm, rotor 112gm, cassette 394gm) puts the wheelset itself at 1980 grams. So you should be able to shave a pound off with a good wheelset. 
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How are you liking the Roker Comp? I just saw it and I'm really liking the looks and components for he corp price.
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I haven't had a chance to ride it, yet. 
It ticked every one of my requirements, other than being a little expensive. When I found out you could get an account and get it at the discounted price - I couldn't say no.
The derailleur isn't well enough protected in the shipping box. It was a little bent when I got it. At this point, adjusting the rear derailleur and time are the only things standing between me and a good long test ride. I'll report back once I've put a few miles on it.
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For what they retail and with the components they have, the corp price is really good. I having been debating between the Roker Comp and Haanjo Comp carbon. Same price for both, but with the Roker, it seems to have a bigger tire clearance and hydraulic brakes. And I have been wanting the 1X setup. I rode a buddy's of mine and really like it. Please do come back after your ride!!
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The Roker has more tire clearance then the Haanjo? Can you run 650b like you can with the Haanjo? I've been looking at the Haanjo EXP and then upgrading to 105 triple shifters, TRP HY RD brakes and Compass  Switchback Hill tires, but if the Roker can take 650b, that changes everything.

Please keep us updated.
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The Roker has more tire clearance then the Haanjo? Can you run 650b like you can with the Haanjo? I've been looking at the Haanjo EXP and then upgrading to 105 triple shifters, TRP HY RD brakes and Compass  Switchback Hill tires, but if the Roker can take 650b, that changes everything.

Please keep us updated.


Hey! Dont take my word as gospel just yet. I'm a total newbie to this. But I have been doing so much research on it. I could have sworn I read that somebody was running 650b on the current Roker Comp. But I can't seem to find the post anymore. But you may find this useful http://www.gravelcyclist.com/bicycle-tech/featured-bike-rustys-raleigh-roker-comp/

And I know this next article is for the tamland, but Guitar Ted got a 650b on a Tamland and from what I've gathered the Roker is very similar to it. http://ridinggravel.com/components/wheel-comparison-650b-vs-700c/

If I find the post I read before, I'll post it on here.
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I have a couple of hundred miles on my Roker Comp.  I found it very similar to a Salsa Warbird that I demoed.  I moved from a Cervelo RS road bike to the Roker and couldn't be more happy.  It climbs well and handles the crushed limestone trails like I am on pavement.  I haven't taken it on single track yet, but that's what my fat bike is for.  

As for the 650b, I don't see why you wouldn't be able too.  Its a smaller diameter wheel so it should give you more clearance.  You can run up to a 700x45c tire on the Roker (there is lots of room around the MSO 700x40c that come with it).
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I have a couple of hundred miles on my Roker Comp.  I found it very similar to a Salsa Warbird that I demoed.  I moved from a Cervelo RS road bike to the Roker and couldn't be more happy.  It climbs well and handles the crushed limestone trails like I am on pavement.  I haven't taken it on single track yet, but that's what my fat bike is for.  

As for the 650b, I don't see why you wouldn't be able too.  Its a smaller diameter wheel so it should give you more clearance.  You can run up to a 700x45c tire on the Roker (there is lots of room around the MSO 700x40c that come with it).


Thanks for the reply. This is making me even more pumped for this bike!
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I have a couple of hundred miles on my Roker Comp.  

As for the 650b, I don't see why you wouldn't be able too.  Its a smaller diameter wheel so it should give you more clearance.  You can run up to a 700x45c tire on the Roker (there is lots of room around the MSO 700x40c that come with it).


OK, thanks for the info. Weird though, because Diamondback has made a big point of advertising that this year's Haanjo could take 650b, seemingly in response to the Open U.P. Just marketing smoke and mirrors, I guess?

I know the big deal with the Open U.P. is the short chain stays and resulting quick handling, but can all road bikes take 650b? Maybe it's only become a point of renewed interest because of the width available in gravel frames? Confusion reigns here for me.
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OK, thanks for the info. Weird though, because Diamondback has made a big point of advertising that this year's Haanjo could take 650b, seemingly in response to the Open U.P. Just marketing smoke and mirrors, I guess?

I know the big deal with the Open U.P. is the short chain stays and resulting quick handling, but can all road bikes take 650b? Maybe it's only become a point of renewed interest because of the width available in gravel frames? Confusion reigns here for me.


Any disc road bike will take 650b wheels.  Its the chainstay shape that will dictate how wide the tires can be.  Some chainstays are shaped in such a way that there is a "pocket" for the tire.  So even if a bike will fit a 700 x 45, it might not fit a 650b x 45 because the "pocket" is not in the right place for the smaller wheel/tire.  For example I have a Planet X London Road that will fit 700 x 45, but will not fit 650b x 45 due to the chainstay shape.  Check out the pic below of a Santa Cruz Stigmata.  You can see that there is a definite "pocket" and that a 650b wheel would have much less clearance than the 700c on it now.

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Thanks for the info on the "pocket".  I can takes some pics tonight of the chain stays.  
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Roker w/ 650's. This was a big tire on these rims, if i remember correctly it measured larger than 2.1. Clearance on the rear was very tight at the chainstay but again, this was a pretty big tire. Front clearance was totally fine. 

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Here are some pics with the 40c MSOs.

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Thanks for the de-mystifying information and photos.
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Well this thread has really become a gold mine. Thanks for the contribution guys! I'm really stoked to get my hands on one.
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Roker w/ 650's. This was a big tire on these rims, if i remember correctly it measured larger than 2.1. Clearance on the rear was very tight at the chainstay but again, this was a pretty big tire. Front clearance was totally fine. 


Did you ride this setup at all? The Haanjo EXP caught my eye for bikepacking for some reason... But I already have a 2017 Roker Sport and love it. Curious if I can get away with 650B x 2.0-2.1 tires similar to what the Haanjo is running.

Not sure if what you have pictured here is realistically rideable, and also not sure if the frame design has changed at all between 2015 and 2017 - I don't think it has.

Any thoughts?
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My thoughts are if your want to buy a Roker Comp. you better pull the plug on it as they just finished from what I understand the last run of Rokers as it is being discontinued and not in their 2018 line up.

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I have a 2016 Roker Comp and a set of AC MTB Race 650b wheels with WTB Horizons.  They fit just fine with room to spare.  Makes for a fun ride.  WTB also has a list of compatible bikes with their Horizon tires.  

It's a nice bike with a quick ride.  I've been using it for road rides recently and it holds up just fine.  I also have a Jamis Renegade and find the main difference is the Raleigh is a bit more roadie feeling and the Jamis more off-road.  Not exactly sure why.  Raleigh does have longer chain stays, but shorter head tube and ETT.  could be that's the reason main reason.  It's also slightly lighter than the Jamis.
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Wheel Weight - The original post was pretty close except that the cassette is 530 grams.  The actual weight for the complete wheel set is 1860 grams (1000 rear and 860 front).  Not bad for stock wheels.
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Wheel Weight - The original post was pretty close except that the cassette is 530 grams.  The actual weight for the complete wheel set is 1860 grams (1000 rear and 860 front).  Not bad for stock wheels.


squak how many miles do you have on your Roker(OOPS I went back and looked at your other post and you are saying you have a couple of 1000 miles on your Roker Is that Correct)? Next question what kind of climbing hills/mts. have you done with it? At my end I want to do all the ultra gravel rides/races in the next couple of years. If I was only riding in Kansas which I won't be my 2016 Raleigh Tamland 1 would be enough bike. That being said I am betting/guessing there will be some out there with plenty of climbing so heck yes a 5 lb lighter bike than my Tamland sure would help some. The price is kind of right with the Corporate discount as for some reason I just don't have the funds to go out and spend $3000 - $4000 on a gravel bike like the Lynskey GR260 and a few others to name a few.


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squak how many miles do you have on your Roker(OOPS I went back and looked at your other post and you are saying you have a couple of 1000 miles on your Roker Is that Correct)? Next question what kind of climbing hills/mts. have you done with it? At my end I want to do all the ultra gravel rides/races in the next couple of years. If I was only riding in Kansas which I won't be my 2016 Raleigh Tamland 1 would be enough bike. That being said I am betting/guessing there will be some out there with plenty of climbing so heck yes a 5 lb lighter bike than my Tamland sure would help some. The price is kind of right with the Corporate discount as for some reason I just don't have the funds to go out and spend $3000 - $4000 on a gravel bike like the Lynskey GR260 and a few others to name a few.


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I've only got about 175 miles on my Roker.  I'm surrounded by big climbs and even my short rides will usually have at least 2000' of vert.  I wanted something a little easier than 42x42 so I replaced the stock 11-42 cassette with a Sunrace 11-46.
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I've only got about 175 miles on my Roker.  I'm surrounded by big climbs and even my short rides will usually have at least 2000' of vert.  I wanted something a little easier than 42x42 so I replaced the stock 11-42 cassette with a Sunrace 11-46.


So everything I have read said that some didn't like the 1x because of the large gap between gears. By going to 11-46 doesn't that give you bigger gaps in the larger gears on the level even though it will climb better? I am not a bicycle parts guy by any means. My question would be this. I have never heard or Sunrace before. Is it as good as Shimano/Campy/or Sram?

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squak how many miles do you have on your Roker(OOPS I went back and looked at your other post and you are saying you have a couple of 1000 miles on your Roker Is that Correct)? Next question what kind of climbing hills/mts. have you done with it? At my end I want to do all the ultra gravel rides/races in the next couple of years. If I was only riding in Kansas which I won't be my 2016 Raleigh Tamland 1 would be enough bike. That being said I am betting/guessing there will be some out there with plenty of climbing so heck yes a 5 lb lighter bike than my Tamland sure would help some. The price is kind of right with the Corporate discount as for some reason I just don't have the funds to go out and spend $3000 - $4000 on a gravel bike like the Lynskey GR260 and a few others to name a few.


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Just would like to throw in my 2 cents here. I've been riding my Roker now for about 6 months and 1500 miles. It's been overall one of my favorite bikes. I love how fast it handles with 38C Tubeless G-One's. I'm actually beating many times I've set over the years on more traditional road race bikes with 25c tires (on pavement!). No discernible reduction in pavement speed while still being fully capable of all of my local gravel, and even some flow single track.

I have the 2017 Sport (2x tiagra).  I'm happy I went with this model for aesthetics and for the extra gearing. 

Nevertheless, I've been having back problems on it for the last two months or so. I was side-swiped by a car in July which the bike came out of with only a scar on the hoods and pedals. I had minor injuries but I think the accident may be coming back to haunt me in the shape of back pain. I've tried nearly everything in terms of bike adjustment.. But lately I just grab my MTB if I'm going to be on the bike for more than an hour, as the more upright position helps.
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