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pawnee

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I have Stans ZTR Alpha 400s and I'm looking into Riddler 37's setup tubeless. Guitar Ted's review recommends against the Riddler + Stans combo. Any experience with this?
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frontrangegravel

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wtb + stans = not great at all. 
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I've used WTB Nanos and Riddlers without issue on my Grail rims for many miles.  Grail/Riddlers is my current set up actually.  No issues to speak of.  Can someone clarify what the issue is supposed to be? 
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I've used WTB Nanos and Riddlers without issue on my Grail rims for many miles.  Grail/Riddlers is my current set up actually.  No issues to speak of.  Can someone clarify what the issue is supposed to be? 


Some people are not able to get WTB tires onto Stans rims. I have no experience with the Alpha series of Stans rims, but have mounted Nanos and Cross Bosses to a couple different Stans mountain rims. I had to use a bead jack and something slippery, but they went on and inflated just fine. WTB uses a pretty tight bead (based on UST specs) and Stans uses a somewhat larger diameter rim (to create a tighter fit) which can be a pain-in-the-neck combo. WTB mountain bike tires on Stans Flow rims was also a tight fit, but a rock solid setup. WTB will tell you their tires aren't recommended for Stans rim, but I have had fantastic experiences with them once they were finally mounted. I should note the Crests lost some tension once the tires were mounted and inflated. I re-tensioned them with ~30 psi in them.

The plus side is that a WTB + Stans combo is an awesome tubeless setup at low pressures. The last time I ran the Cross Boss tires on my Crest rims, I was at 23 psi front and 25 rear. No burps under my 190 lbs. The recent Schwalbe Tubeless Easy (TLE) tires use a similar bead and can be tough to install. They are the only two cyclocross tire brands I haven't been able to burp so far. Specialized, Clement, Kenda.....buuurp. I'm trying out the newest Specialized Terra (33) soon since they just started shipping and it's been so freaking muddy for racing lately. They are supposed to be using a redesigned bead that fits tighter too. We'll see. If they go onto the rim without a battle, they will probably burp!
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