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alembical

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Just curious if anyone has tried one of these:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-Power-Inflator-Tool-Only-P737/206159256?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D25H-AirCompressors%7c&gclid=Cj0KEQiA_KvEBRCtzNil4-KR-LIBEiQAmgekF0bXn962iI5nlcNNEs3npSXIMEsIc6NWah8bok6IH18aAktL8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

I am assuming that they do not provide enough air quick enough to seat a tubeless tire, but if they do, then I would likely want to pick one up.  Nice compressors are pricey, loud and big.  The little booster things that you pump up with your track pump make a lot of sense and are likely the way that I am headed.  I am tired of using a co2 cartridge and then having to drain the co2
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I haven't tired one, but I am pretty confident saying that there is no way something that size can seat a tubeless tire.  I have a Bontrager Flash pump for seating tubeless tires and it is great.
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I was going to make one out of an old fire extinguisher...but bought a use Craftsmen air compressor instead.
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Goes up to 150 psi so probably 100usable psi which should be enough to pop a tire on. I use a 120 volt husky which I have had for years. Takes about 120 psi to seat but haven't tried lower.
With the battery the Ryobi is about $100
I would look into one of the booster models like Topeak or bontrager makes, it is portable no hassle with battery charging.
On the other hand if I already owned a battery the $20 is not a bad price to see if it works you can return it if not.
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That cordless Ryobi pump will accomplish jack squat.  The pressure rating of the air pump/compressor is useless to determine if the device is good for seating tubeless tires.  What is important is the flow rate and reservoir volume.  Buy an compressor with a minimum tank of 2 gallons/8 liters or one of the specialized tubeless tire bicycle pumps.
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I doubt that you'll get enough flow and pressure you need to seat most tubeless tires with this skimpy device. If you don't have a compressor though, I've had very good results with the Airshot: https://smile.amazon.com/gp/product/B01BJ4MXQY/ref=oh_aui_search_detailpage?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Specialize makes a similar product that is less expensive.
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I bought a Porter Cable "pancake" type compressor. It was relatively inexpensive and works great for fat bike tires/
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I bought a Porter Cable "pancake" type compressor. It was relatively inexpensive and works great for fat bike tires/

I also have a Porter Cable you mentioned -- and it works very well for seating tubeless. But, it isn't very portable for travel. And even at home, I use my Airshot to seat tubeless because it's less hassle than setting up the Porter Cable, which I usually don't have set-up. I guess the best of both worlds is to have both devices -- the compressor for stubborn tires, and the Airshot for travel and most other tires.
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Thanks. I'll have to take a look at that Airshot. We are fortunate as we have lots of room in our outdoor shed to have a dedicated bike repair area where the compressor is always available. Thanks.
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Thanks. I'll have to take a look at that Airshot. We are fortunate as we have lots of room in our outdoor shed to have a dedicated bike repair area where the compressor is always available. Thanks.

One note about the Airshot- you have to remove the valve core to use it. The inflation hose of the Airshot fits into the valve body and assures rapid inflation for tire seating. It took me a few minutes to figure out how it works. Therefore you can't really use the Airshot for tire inflation, like you can with some of the the combines seating and inflation pumps like the Topeak. But, the Topeak is expensive and bulky for travel - especially air travel.
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Thanks. We don't fly much any longer but I get it. For us a road trip might be "Hey, let's go to South Dakota this weekend"...a short 600 trip.
Looking at the Topeak.
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Thanks. We don't fly much any longer but I get it. For us a road trip might be "Hey, let's go to South Dakota this weekend"...a short 600 trip. Looking at the Topeak.

 JOM at Gravel Cyclist tested and reviewed the Topeak. Here is a link to the review and video: http://www.gravelcyclist.com/bicycle-tech/video-review-topeak-joeblow-booster-pump-is-it-a-replacement-for-the-air-compressor/

While effective, the Topeak is bulky, heavy, and expensive, especially if you already own one, or several good floor pumps
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Curious if anyone's used an Airshot for real. Online reviews are generally positive, except for price.
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Looks like Schwalbe is selling a re-branded Airshot in the EU. I added one to my cart at Merlin ($52) but got a message that it's not available for shipment to the US. I'm hoping we see it here soon.
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Curious if anyone's used an Airshot for real. Online reviews are generally positive, except for price.

I've used it several times. Works very well. The instructions that come with it are sketchy though. You should remove the valve core from the tubeless valve stem and insert the inflation adapter directly into the valve body. I pump the Airshot to 140psi and have yet to have a failure seating tires. When you remove the Airshot hose, you will release the pressure in the tire, which is seated. You then squirt in the sealant through the valve, re-install the valve core, and inflate the tire with a regular floor pump. I can do the whole install in less time than it takes me to type this posting. I can't guarantee that this will work with every tubeless tire --- but so far, I've had no failures with worn Ramblers and new GK's.

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Looks like Schwalbe is selling a re-branded Airshot in the EU. I added one to my cart at Merlin ($52) but got a message that it's not available for shipment to the US. I'm hoping we see it here soon.

Good deal, if you can get it. You can also check out a similar product from Specialized.

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Hmmmmm.. Still curious about this thread.  Note that the original post had Ryobi's smaller unit.  They have a bigger one.  https://www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.18v-one-cordless-green-inflator.1000786748.html  (Canadian link).  About $40 US.  So tempting...
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Originally Posted by alembical
Just curious if anyone has tried one of these:
http://www.homedepot.com/p/Ryobi-18-Volt-ONE-Power-Inflator-Tool-Only-P737/206159256?cm_mmc=Shopping%7cTHD%7cG%7c0%7cG-BASE-PLA-D25H-AirCompressors%7c&gclid=Cj0KEQiA_KvEBRCtzNil4-KR-LIBEiQAmgekF0bXn962iI5nlcNNEs3npSXIMEsIc6NWah8bok6IH18aAktL8P8HAQ&gclsrc=aw.ds

I am assuming that they do not provide enough air quick enough to seat a tubeless tire, but if they do, then I would likely want to pick one up.  Nice compressors are pricey, loud and big.  The little booster things that you pump up with your track pump make a lot of sense and are likely the way that I am headed.  I am tired of using a co2 cartridge and then having to drain the co2
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I paid $125 for a Porter Cable pancake type compressor. Works awesome for setting fat tires tubleless. Heck, I think I paid $75 or more for a hand pump
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I paid $125 for a Porter Cable pancake type compressor. Works awesome for setting fat tires tubleless. Heck, I think I paid $75 or more for a hand pump

I paid a bit more at Lowes for mine a few years ago. I still find it a PITA to drag out and setup. The Portable-Cable is also very noisy. The Airshot is much more convenient, and very portable for travel. The Porter-Cable is nice to have as a backup for seating tires and odd jobs using air-tools and inflating large volume tires on cars, tractors etc. Mine gathers dust in the garage most of the year.
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The only time I've ever needed a compressor for a tubeless setup was with some not-entirely-tubeless-ready plus/fat tire combos. 

With any typical gravel tire/rim combo (tubeless ready), a HV floor pump has always done the trick just fine.
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Yes--I've heard that you can sometimes get away with a regular pump, but... I'm new at this and want to get it right.  Thing is, my wheelset (Campy Khamsin CX) is not technically tubeless-ready.  And I'm not the most mechanically sound dude.  So the idea of using some kind of compressed air seems good.  

I'm really curious about the Ryobi Green inflator, since I own a coupla Ryobi 18V tools already.  

Can you tell me this: if I try that device and the tubeless conversion fails, what's the scenario?  Mess?  Wasted goo?  Yucked up wheels?  I mean, what am I looking at if the compressor doesn't do the trick? 

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Can you tell me this: if I try that device and the tubeless conversion fails, what's the scenario?  Mess?  Wasted goo?  Yucked up wheels?  I mean, what am I looking at if the compressor doesn't do the trick? 


No real problem but wasted money on the compressor.  When seating the tires for the first time, just do not have any sealant in them.  Try it out with the compressor and if it seats fine, than it will sit fine once you have added the sealant.
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I'm curious if anyone has tried one of these?
http://www.harborfreight.com/5-gallon-portable-air-tank-65594.html

I've got one but haven't gone tubeless yet, so I haven't had an opportunity to try it. Other than the fact that you'd need a Shraeder to Presta adapter, I think it would work. 
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The Ryobi mentioned is not a compressor it just makes air as needed without any storage.
A lot of times with tubeless you need a burst to get the bead to seat. Lots of variables with tires,rims etc...
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