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geoffreydean

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In the one time I tried both, it seemed the Camelbak actually was colder. This was surprising to me since the Camelbak didn't seem to have much insulation. I assume the reason then was the greater volume of ice water. Anyone else have experience they care to share. Or maybe know of a better bottle than Polar. 


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RoverAl

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I could freeze an insulated squeeze bottle and have warm water in about an hour here in  Florida. With a reservoir  Camelbak or Osprey brand, I can get about 50 miles of drinking water which by that time is warm but drinkable.

I saw a new Camelbak bottle that is insulated and supposed to be better but it is around $25 bucks for a basic looking squeeze bottle.

color=8920520482164a0a9d9166f15e84ee38https://www.camelbak.com/en/bottles/sport-bike/R02013--Podium_Ice_21oz?color=8920520482164a0a9d9166f15e84ee38

I have  polar insulated bottles and camelbak insulated bottles and they are about the same in cold retention. This new one looks promising but I think it is overpriced and I am not convinced about it's cold retention.
I agree with you about the larger volume of ice water.
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kgreene2

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The Podium Ice bottle you mention has been tested & found to keep drinks cold for 3-4 times as long as the Polar bottle.

I have both, and the Podium Ice is significantly better (in San Antonio, a challenging summer environment!). You give up ~2oz vs.the Polar.

Look beyond the mnfctr's website—street price is about 1/2 that. And don't confuse it with the Podium Chill, which is merely comparable to the Polar bottle.
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RoverAl

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The best price I have seen on the CamelBak ice is $17.00 do share if you know of a better price. I have so many bottles here in Fla I am always game to try a new product ,but I still think $17. is to much for me. I've been to the Riverwalk best catfish I ever ate,  Alamo, and seen the Spurs play and it is pretty damn hot in San Anton
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My camelbak stays colder longer.   I fill it the night before (leaving room for some ice) and put bag in refrigerator overnight, then put ice in it before the ride.   At times I ride in extreme heat ... this process works great for me.  easy peasey-no guessing (I also like the small amount/but noticeable coolness on my back) 

I have used frozen and thermal bottles ... they work too....but when it's hot and I am riding hard on long rides.... I would end up with either not enough water due to ice chunk/waiting for it to thaw/reduced bottle capacity, or not enough ice to keep it cold anyway. 

End result ... I use cold water in bottles for shorter rides or cooler weather ... and use camelbak when I am on longer or harder rides (>2 large bottles of available water needed) and it's hot.

Disclaimer:  I don't own a 4 oz bottle per your question ...if I am only going for a 1/2 hour ride I don't need it/carry it in my belly.  ymmv

hope this helps (camelbak lobo)
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I have the Camelbak Ice and Camelbak Chill bottles.  Right after I got my Ice, I put the same number of ice cubes in both bottles and filled them up with cold water (Ice is a few oz smaller than the Chill), then left them on the counter beside each other.  After a few hours the Ice bottle had a few small pieces of ice left after the Chill bottle had melted...but not much.  Definitely wouldn't have lasted 3-4x as long, I'm not sure what testing was done to prove this claim.  I still use my Ice bottle sometimes, but I don't count on it lasting any longer than my Chill bottles.  I've never used the Polar bottles...but did see quite a few of them along the roadside during the Dirty Kanza, so some people must like them! 
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