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alembical

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I am contemplating having a new wheelset built with the White Industries CLD hub.  
White Industries CLD Hubset offers a free upgrade to 48 points of engagement (POE) freehub option. Is there any reason why you would prefer the standard 24? I would be using the wheelset on a gravel endurance bike, not a mountain bike or crit bike, so a little lag is not a huge deal, but still, faster engagement is better, right?

Would the 48 be louder, more drag, less durable, etc..?

Looks like I am going to do a Hed Belgium Plus, White Industries CLD, Sapim D-Light spokes and 7075 alloy nipples.  Thinking 28 front and rear. Any red flags or comments? 
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I am also on the fence with these hubs, would love to hear anyone's opinion of them. Also looking at the HED Belgium Plus hoops, but I'm going with a 32 hole front and rear, as I'm quite hard on gear. I dig that they offer a titanium hub body, and from what I was told, they've never had a hub body fail. I would also like to know where they fall in people's hierarchy between DT Swiss 240, Project 321, and Industry 9 Torch. (don't mean to hijack the thread).

In regards to spokes, that looks like a proprietary design and may be hard to get 5-10 years down the line, I guess you could always buy a few extra for when/if they ever break on you? I would also consider a brass nipple, as the alloy have a tendency to fail, unless I've been misinformed?   
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I am also on the fence with these hubs, would love to hear anyone's opinion of them. Also looking at the HED Belgium Plus hoops, but I'm going with a 32 hole front and rear, as I'm quite hard on gear. I dig that they offer a titanium hub body, and from what I was told, they've never had a hub body fail. I would also like to know where they fall in people's hierarchy between DT Swiss 240, Project 321, and Industry 9 Torch. (don't mean to hijack the thread).

In regards to spokes, that looks like a proprietary design and may be hard to get 5-10 years down the line, I guess you could always buy a few extra for when/if they ever break on you? I would also consider a brass nipple, as the alloy have a tendency to fail, unless I've been misinformed?   


What are the proprietary spokes you speak of?  I thought the OP was talking standard J bend spokes.

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I am contemplating having a new wheelset built with the White Industries CLD hub.  
White Industries CLD Hubset offers a free upgrade to 48 points of engagement (POE) freehub option. Is there any reason why you would prefer the standard 24? I would be using the wheelset on a gravel endurance bike, not a mountain bike or crit bike, so a little lag is not a huge deal, but still, faster engagement is better, right?

Would the 48 be louder, more drag, less durable, etc..?

Looks like I am going to do a Hed Belgium Plus, White Industries CLD, Sapim D-Light spokes and 7075 alloy nipples.  Thinking 28 front and rear. Any red flags or comments? 



I'm going to guess more drag and slightly more weight.  Sounds like a great combo.  Maybe you would consider 24h front?

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What are the proprietary spokes you speak of?  I thought the OP was talking standard J bend spokes.


I stand corrected, when I first looked at these online the pictures looked as if half the spoke, near the hook, was a bladed portion, after looking at them in greater detail, I realize that its just a thicker spoke area. 
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I have 2 wheelsets with White CLD hubs and so far, so good.
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alembical

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Thanks everyone.  Wheelset is being built as we speak.  I went with the 48 poe and 28 spokes front and rear, fairly standard Sapim D-Light Black 14/16 J-Bend Spokes.  I ended up staying with the DT 7075 Black 12mm 2.0 Alloy Nipples.  This was the first time I haven't gone with the brass nipples.  Hope I don't regret it.
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good choice, I'm getting a very similar wheel set buildt for my almost ready new bike this week, just waiting on the rear rim, to be delivered this week to the bike shop.  I'm going polished silver CLD, Belgium + rims dt comp spokes and brass nipples, 28/32, which yea is over built for me, but will be a very good wheel set.  I found out about the 48T ratchet when the hubs came into the shop a month or so ago, was nicely surprised, I have since heard on a forum../or the November wheels site, that all of the White Industries CLD hubs are now coming with the 48t version, the non disc T11 are still coming with the 24t version but can be upgraded.  I have a couple sets of wheels with T11 and 24t ratchet and they have been very nice, 48t might be better, but for road ridding it works really well, and rolls, and freewheels very smoothly.  The New Cld 48 might be slightly louder, but I have not heard the hub as part of a wheel in a frame yet.  Remember also that the newer Chris king R45 hubs are a 45T ratchet , and everyone still wants them, even when the mountain and Classic hubs are 72T, so now with the 48t WI option you have a hub with just as good of engagement as a King R45, weighs only slightly more and has the Ti free hub body for less money, and still looks awesome in several colors.
my Thoughts,

Adam

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