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Animal494

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Got a “Which Bike?” debate for ya:

RLT RDO 3-Star. vs RLT 9 4-Star

Price: $3800 vs $3900 (though I think you can now get them for $3500 online)
Weight: 19lbs vs 21lbs
Frame: Carbon vs Aluminum
Fork: Same
Build: Rival vs Ultegra
Wheels: Stan’s Grail vs Niner Carbon CX

Basically same money… which would you choose and why? Carbon frame with alloy wheels and rival groupo, or aluminum frame with carbon wheels and full ultegra.
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owly

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I'd start with frame colour first, irrespective of material.
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Animal494

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I'd start with frame colour first, irrespective of material.


Ha!  Well then the black/silver RDO is the hands down winner!

The alloy rims on the carbon bike are wider than the carbon rims on the alloy bike.  For the extra 100 or so grams the alloy rims weigh, I think I'd prefer the width - especially considering the carbon frame more than offsets the extra weight of the lower wheels and groupset.
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tire clearance is something to keep in mind as well.  The RDO barely clears a 40c tire like the Nano, whereas I've heard folks can fit the 45c Riddlers and even the 1.8" Renegades
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It all depends what you are going to do with it.   Don't make the mistake of thinking the RDO is simply a carbon version of the RLT 9.  RDO means "Race Day Only", so you can get an idea of how the frame was designed.  If you want a stiff race bike that goes fast, but is not as comfortable go with the RDO.  If you are looking for a comfortable , all day bike then go with the RLT 9.   
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It all depends what you are going to do with it.  
 
Yup, that about sums it up. [thumb]

Once you have the bike and start piling on the miles you'll figure out if you want some more aero wheels, etc etc...   

For most people, a 40c tire is more than ample but others are doing singletrack with their gravel bikes so a 45c is a big deal.  I've found myself in deep gravel where I'd have loved something wider than the 40's I was using.  I can also see myself replacing my Tarmac road bike with a fast and light CX or endurance rig that likely will be limited to 32's or 35's but this would not be replacing any of my gravel bikes.   So yeah, it all depends what you'll be doing with it.

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Greg
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Animal494

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If you want a stiff race bike that goes fast, but is not as comfortable go with the RDO.  If you are looking for a comfortable , all day bike then go with the RLT 9.


Huh. Wouldn't have thought the 21+lb aluminum machine would be considered a more comfortable steed than a 19lb carbon bike.
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Aluminum and Steel versions of the RLT have identical geometry, but the carbon RLT is a different beast.  I would look into those differences and decide from there.  The carbon frame is much more aggressive, and like someone said above, doesn't have the same tire clearance.

Plus it's not steel, so the choice is clear.
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