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mikeyjp

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I have a Jamis Renegade with WTB i23 STP.
Looking to upgrade the wheels and save weight while gaining performance.
Weigh 240. Ride bike on all terrains and the bike is also used as a road bike
Have considered keeping the rims and lacing up DT350's
Budget is $600 max!


Any help would be great as I know nothing about wheels, spokes or hubs
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I have a Jamis Renegade with WTB i23 STP.
Looking to upgrade the wheels and save weight while gaining performance.
Weigh 240. Ride bike on all terrains and the bike is also used as a road bike
Have considered keeping the rims and lacing up DT350's
Budget is $600 max!


Any help would be great as I know nothing about wheels, spokes or hubs


I think that WTB is an OEM rim, if I'm not mistaken, and on the heavy side.  Also, you may have wire bead tires, so upgrading tires may shed some weight.  

You said riding on road, so if we are talking actual road tires, you'd want to keep rims on the narrower side.  Like 19-21mm internal, depending on tires.  Unless you have a separate wheel set for road riding.  

I have done sets for a few guys with similar weights to you, with the H plus Son Hydra, and the Pacenti Forza rims, and they have all been real happy with no complaints.  

DT Swiss 350 hubs are always a solid choice.  Or Hope if you like the buzz they make.  

h-plus-son-the-hydra-rim-large.jpg  IMG_20170221_121721670.jpg 




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Don’t have a road bike it sees rod miles but currently running 40c maxxisrefuse tires.
Definitely want to keep it a gravel with some singletrack bike.
They are the oem rims. Hard to find any with the 23mm id.
Could go up to $800 if it would make that much of a difference.
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Don’t have a road bike it sees rod miles but currently running 40c maxxisrefuse tires. Definitely want to keep it a gravel with some singletrack bike. They are the oem rims. Hard to find any with the 23mm id. Could go up to $800 if it would make that much of a difference. Thanks


Gotcha.  Yes, if you are running 40c tires with no intention to go smaller, or much smaller, then 21-23mm i.w. will work dandy.  

Dang, I almost forgot!  DT has some new rims.  This would be perfect for you.  22mm internal.  Support for 130 kg weight. 

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Oleritter built me wheels with the 350 hubs and Hydra rims for my 270 pound body. (Hey, are those mine in the picture?) I love 'em. Rock solid and lighter than stock.
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I’m assuming I should go 32 hole?
Talk to me about spokes?
Oleritter are you a wheel builder? Do you have a website? Can I contact you about my build?
I have a ton of questions and would love to be find someone to answer them?
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Oleritter built me wheels with the 350 hubs and Hydra rims for my 270 pound body. (Hey, are those mine in the picture?) I love 'em. Rock solid and lighter than stock.


I think these were?  

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The Hydra rims have been pretty popular and impressive, covering a lot of bases.  That said, I really like that DT is bringing out the wider 470 and 500.  The 500 is going to be great for big riders and big tires.  (If I could only find some right now)


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I’m assuming I should go 32 hole? Talk to me about spokes? Oleritter are you a wheel builder? Do you have a website? Can I contact you about my build? I have a ton of questions and would love to be find someone to answer them?


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XD driver. Yep those are probably mine. 
The only current picture I have of them is here:
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WTB are not necessarily OEM rims. 

There's the ST series, which is quite heavy ~500-590g a rim depending on size (507g for 29" 19mm i.d.). But they are meant to be durable with all the nice things like reinforced spoke holes, etc.

And they do the Frequency, which is their lighter off-road rim (417g for 29" 19mm i.d.). I have a set of WTB Frequency CX rims on my gravel bike. After 10,000 km I took them on the truing stand for the first time. They were only about .3 mm out laterally, easily came back to within ~.1 mm (yes, that may be over the top, and most people wouldn't bother with .3mm, but I tensioned spokes and while you're at it ....). Easy to set up tubeless as well (with a track pump), although I don't run WTB tyres (Panaracer GK SK).

If you only ride 40mm tyres, the most saving could be had going for narrower rims. 19mm i.d. is enough for 40mm.


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For gravel I had a set of wheels with DT350 hubs built, using WTB KOM i25 rims, and I love them. They have WTB Resolute tires mounted (tubeless) and you could easily do the same using your i23 rims.
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Roval Control 29er wheelset

$600, 1550g.  I'm just shy of 250 and have pounded the hell out of 2 different sets of these without so much as a spoke coming loose
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For gravel I had a set of wheels with DT350 hubs built, using WTB KOM i25 rims, and I love them. They have WTB Resolute tires mounted (tubeless) and you could easily do the same using your i23 rims.


Can I ask, what tires do you run on your i25 rims?

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Can I ask, what tires do you run on your i25 rims?

Sure! I've run Surly Knard 41c with tubes, and now I'm running WTB Resolutes tubeless.
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