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frontrangegravel

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Share your thoughts, experience, questions about the Stans ZTR Grail wheels below.

Includes quick-release endcaps and skewers, as well as 15mm front and 142mm rear through axle end caps.

[2015-profile-Grail]

What's Included: Grail wheels include: pre-installed tape for tubeless use, presta valve.

ZTR Grail Page

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stabbedintheface

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I burned through a pair of these in less than 6 months.  The spokes they put on them are cheap as hell...it's worth it to pay for the uprgrade
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I've got about 600 miles of mostly East TN Forest Service Road riding on these and have no issues other than needing new front bearings after the Hilly Billy Roubaix mud fest this year, and the rear hub / axle came a little loose, but that might have been from me not tightening it enough since I did the conversion from QR to 12x142TA. When I bought, they only had 2 models and I intentionally got the heavier 'Comp' model to get the higher spoke count and thicker spokes.
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I've been running these for about a year now. Put about 3k on them with a set of XT hubs then switched to DT Swiss 350s when I went to through axle. They've got about 6000 miles total on them now with no problems. I've run Hutchinson Sector 28s, Kenda SB8s & Slant 6, and WTB Nano 40s on them with no problems.

I also have a set of Arch EX rims with the Stan's 330 hubs. Those wheels have over 15,000 miles on them and all I've had to do was replace the springs and pawls at around 12k.
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Stabbedintheface did you get the Pro-Team or Comp of the Grails? I know you said pay for the upgrade so I am assuming the comp but just want to be sure.  I have not hear of any other issues and am just wondering if you got an isolated incident.  Also what tires were you running and about what pressure and type of terrain?  Any info would help cause I am thinking of getting a set.
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gravelfondo

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See my post about the RIMS.  Wheels, I can say.

http://ridinggravel.forumchitchat.com/post/stans-grail-rim-issue-7839418
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For those prices I'd buy a good set of hubs, the rims, and have a local wheel builder lace them up. You can get front and rear Hope hubs for about $300 for the set and they are very very nice hubs that are easily serviceable. Some quality DT Swiss double butted spokes and hand built...you should have a wheel set that will last and last and last for the same price or less.
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stabbedintheface

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Stabbedintheface did you get the Pro-Team or Comp of the Grails? I know you said pay for the upgrade so I am assuming the comp but just want to be sure.  I have not hear of any other issues and am just wondering if you got an isolated incident.  Also what tires were you running and about what pressure and type of terrain?  Any info would help cause I am thinking of getting a set.


Sorry for the late reply.  I got the comp that came with a Carbon GT Grade 105.  
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Dug

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I have the Comp wheelset with the Neo hub.   I have just at 1000 miles on the wheels.  No complaints about the rim/spokes.  However, the rear hub bearings are shot.  My LBS called Stans and the bearings are not available at the moment.   My LBS is ordering a set of bearings from another manufacturer for me at the moment.

These wheels have one 90 mile ride through very wet conditions.  The rest of the miles have been dry bordering on dusty. 

I don't think I'm out of line expecting them to last longer than this.  

My $0.02.
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GrinderTom

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I've got a few thousand miles on a set of Grails with November Nimbus Ti CLD (White Industries) hubs.  
http://www.novemberbicycles.com/nimbus-ti-cld-wheelsets/
28/24 lacing.  No issues at all.  Haven't needed to even touchup/true them.  I'm 165 lbs.  Running tubeless with WTB Nano.  Got me through DK200 as well.




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I'm ~175lbs and have a set of Grails laced to White Industries CLD hubs, 24/28 with CX-Rays.  I've got ~1200 miles on them so far, always set up with tubeless Compass tires, Barlows for a little while until the Bon Jons became available, and I've been using those ever since.  No complaints.  Stiff enough, lively, and they've withstood bottoming out on roots/rocks/bridge lips/etc many times without denting.

I caught a stick in the rear wheel riding singletrack and bent a spoke a while back, and ~300 miles later the spoke broke, about ten miles from home.  The wheel barely went out of true at all.





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