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 Which Drivetrain Would You Go With?
 Sram Force 7 25%
 Shimano Ultegra R8000 Series 6 21%
 Shimano Ultegra DI2 11 39%
 Other 4 14%
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kriskexplorer

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I am looking at either going with Sram Force or Shimano Ultegra(R8000 Series) and wanted to poll the audience on which direction to go.  Looking for the best shifting and ease of installation.  I had Sram Rival (10 speed) in the past and could never dial in the FD including the LBS.  I'm also thinking about DI2 as an option.
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Volsung

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Sram made 1x road because they don't know how to build a FD. If you can afford Di2, get it.
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Di2 is awesome and shifts flawless, and I don't regret getting it on my road bike.  But to me electronic shifting should be reserved for sunny days and broad boulevards (I know many, including Nick Legan, would disagree).  When I'm out doing gravel and the conditions are poor, I'd rather have the field fix-ability and lower replacement cost of a mechanical system at my disposal.  Just my $.02
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kriskexplorer

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Sram made 1x road because they don't know how to build a FD. If you can afford Di2, get it.


That makes senses...lol
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FWIW, I really like SRAM brifters.
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chunkyhugo

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Don't go for SRAM as they are abandoning X2 and really pushing X1. I like my X2 SRAM setup, but wonder what future options will be for replacing worn items.
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Don't go for SRAM as they are abandoning X2 and really pushing X1. I like my X2 SRAM setup, but wonder what future options will be for replacing worn items.


Where did you hear that?  SRAM is pushing 1x for gravel, but they have no plans to drop 2x for their road groups.
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chunkyhugo

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Where did you hear that?  SRAM is pushing 1x for gravel, but they have no plans to drop 2x for their road groups.

Yep, it's all part of their evil masterplan to rid the gravel community of our front derailleurs.
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Rainysunny

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SRAM 1x apex through force pretty much perform the same with the only difference being weight. Save yourself some money...
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Adam V

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I'm running Sram Rival, with a Force double crank, first running a 46/36, and now replaced the 36 for a 34, and still shifting well.  My other bikes run Campy shifters, so I don't have any experience with the 10 speed Sram double.  The front shifting works well and I prefer being able to have a larger gear range while running a tighter cassette.
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I'm running Sram Rival, with a Force double crank, first running a 46/36, and now replaced the 36 for a 34, and still shifting well.  My other bikes run Campy shifters, so I don't have any experience with the 10 speed Sram double.  The front shifting works well and I prefer being able to have a larger gear range while running a tighter cassette.

What ratio cassette are you using with the 46/34?
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There are more options today among road-oriented groups that provide good gearing for gravel riders, but for years I've had excellent results mixing Shimano STI shifters with drivetrain components intended for MTBs.  I ride in areas with lots of long and steep climbing, and have used MTB triple cranksets to get the gear range desired for my scrawny legs while keeping the ratios tighter on the cassette.  Inevitably, road vs. MTB compatibility hurdles must be sorted out (I've had great results with Jtek Shiftmates), but once mitigated I have yet to run such a setup that didn't shift as if all the parts were part of the same groupset.  Happy to share details if anyone's interested, but just thought I'd mention as an alternative in case someone's in the same boat terrain-wise.
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OH To @chunkyhugo I'm running a 11-32 right now,on the wheel set with Panaracer GK 32MM slick tires(mostly used for road riding, especially in damp weather) but with the new 34 T small ring I might soon go back to a 11-28, my secondary wheel set which has larger Panaracer GK SK 35 tires is running a 12-28 DA cassette
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There are more options today among road-oriented groups that provide good gearing for gravel riders


I'm still waiting for a groupset with a 46-30 crankset, 11-36 cassette, clutch RD, brifters. Not necessarily a "gravel groupset", more like an average Joe or mixed terrain groupset. 

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I'm still waiting for a groupset with a 46-30 crankset, 11-36 cassette, clutch RD, brifters. Not necessarily a "gravel groupset", more like an average Joe or mixed terrain groupset. 



I did see that FSA has 'adventure' gearing that is 48/32 available on most of their cranksets.  A hair lower than 50/34 but with better range than a 46/36. 
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I did see that FSA has 'adventure' gearing that is 48/32 available on most of their cranksets.  A hair lower than 50/34 but with better range than a 46/36. 


AbsoluteBlack is coming out with elliptical 48/32 and 46/30 rings for Shimano 4 bolt, 110BCD cranks. 
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chunkyhugo

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I did see that FSA has 'adventure' gearing that is 48/32 available on most of their cranksets.  A hair lower than 50/34 but with better range than a 46/36. 
Sounds good. I have a 46/36 and think it's far too close. 48/32 is way better. When my chainrings need replacing, I will try this combo.
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I did see that FSA has 'adventure' gearing that is 48/32 available on most of their cranksets.  A hair lower than 50/34 but with better range than a 46/36. 


I know about most options (I think) but I still want a complete groupset with a 46/30. [bawl]With things like an optimized front derailleur that works perfectly and of course I want all the other things I listed. 😃 

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kriskexplorer

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I picked up one of these in 46/30:
https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/type/cranksets/sl-k-modular-bb386evo-crankset-4321

These are the additional rings also comparable with Gossamer/Energy/SL-K/ K-FORCE cranks:
https://shop.fullspeedahead.com/en/type/chainrings/sl-k-adventure-modular-chainring-3153



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I'm still waiting for a groupset with a 46-30 crankset, 11-36 cassette, clutch RD, brifters. Not necessarily a "gravel groupset", more like an average Joe or mixed terrain groupset. 



I think something like this would be popular among gravel and road riders, alike.

I'd also like an Ultegra-level 3x option to return, with something like 50-39-30 or 48-36-26.  Not sure that would ever fly, but I've never cared for the 16T difference between 2x compact rings.  The trend toward wider rear spacing would benefit the 3x chainline.

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I something like think this would be popular among gravel and road riders, alike.

I'd also like an Ultegra-level 3x option to return, with something like 50-39-30 or 48-36-26.  Not sure that would ever fly, but I've never cared for the 16T difference between 2x compact rings.  The trend toward wider rear spacing would benefit the 3x chainline.



I think it would be a good as an average Joe/mortal groupset too and for mixed terrain... It's a no brainer IMO. 

Yeah it's pretty interesting that you can only get triples with Tiagra and lower...
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I'm still waiting for a groupset with a 46-30 crankset, 11-36 cassette, clutch RD, brifters. Not necessarily a "gravel groupset", more like an average Joe or mixed terrain groupset. 




If someone would just make a 15-38 or 15-40 11sp cassette and road dérailleur (clutch would be nice), I'd be quite happy to stick with a 50/34 crankset.
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I'm with you. I love a triple. It gives you the ability to have closely spaced gears while also having granny gears for the steep stuff. A di2 triple would be amazing. That said, moving to subcompact gearing makes a lot of sense for us mere mortal, everyday riders. I have a trek domane disc with an ultegra 50-34 crankset paired with an 11-36 cassette. Still not low enough for really steep grades. (I'm also getting old!) The trek bb90 bottom bracket doesn't pair with subcompact cranksets. However, Absolute Black just came out with oval aftermarket subcompact chainrings designed for 4 bolt ultegra and dura ace cranks. They come in 46-30 and 48-32. Cost is about $230 a set. Cheaper than a new crankset. Mine (46-30's) are on order. Was thinking about trying oval rings anyway, so kind of a no-brainer for me.
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I'm a fan of SRAM Road. The Yaw front derailleur works flawlessly IF and only if it's set up correctly (read the directions- it's not the "normal" setup you're used to). If you don't set it up right, it's basically the worst front derailleur ever. 

That being said, the consistency/power of robot shifting can't be beat as long as you're willing to deal with the electronics & you're OK with the mouse-click shifting feel. Not really my bag, which is why I stick to SRAM. 

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For 2x, Shimano hands down. The 8000 series hydraulic shifters make Sram's HRD shifters look monstrous. I dislike having to trim Shimano FD's, where Sram solved that issue with their YAW design. But with Di2 it would be a non-issue.
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