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rafcom456

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@Rudy - the weight is 8,4 kg. The bike is quite big because it is L - size so I think it is good number [smile]
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As another example, mine is an XS.  It has Ultegra Crank, RS-685 Levers, BR505 Brakes, Servas Vendetta Carbon Bottle Cages, Reynolds Attach Wheels, Pro-One 28's, 3t Stylus 25 LTD Stealth Seatpost, 3T Ergonova Team Stealth Handlebars (40cm), Shimano SPD 9000 Pedals.  With this configuration it comes in at 8,07 kg.

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Just wanted to say THANK YOU to all the posters Re the Ridley X trail.     This discussion prodded me to start looking for one to test ride...and after finally finding someone with the 2016 carbon model in the wild to take for a spin ... I recently popping for the 2017 x-trail carbon ultegra from Performance.     I will try to add any information not previously covered (if any ixists) after I get some real miles on it.

The information you all provided was extremely helpful, particularly the emphasis on the stated 40 clearance being overstated.   I went in fully informed on that aspect.     fwiw the performance description still says ..."will easily clear at least a 40mm tire, probably more, so you can have all the tire clearance you need for pretty much any adventure" lol.   Thanks to you all, I know that isn't correct.

The only thing I found less than optimal for my taste is the FSA Gossamer Mega EXO crank on the current Performance $2650 - 265 = $2385 Ultegra (not completely) build .... but that gives me something to look forward to attempting to wear out for future upgrade lol.   

Frankly....I also considered a Chinese carbon frame being discussed on another thread that is reported? to handle 40's.....but after adding up the on sale ultegra and similarly equipped components .... I wasn't going to be saving much money (if any) under their discounted and store credit price, and I would have been taking all (my perceived) the risk.     I guess we can all justify what ever we want if we try hard enough lol

I digress .... back to the point ....  THANK YOU for all the information.
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Update:

Now have just under 1000 miles of gravel/trail on the 2017 Ridley Xtrail Carbon.   

Love this bike!   Exactly what I was hoping for.   

Upgrades:   The bike came with tubeless ready DT Swiss rims, but a non tubeless Schwalbe 36mm tire (and of course tubes).   Having never ridden tubeless, I wanted to experiment.....so went with Stans Tape (21mm) and Orange Seal and the Schwalbe MSO 36 Tubeless 120 tpi.   Sealed easy peasy with a hand pump.    Love the tire, Love the tubeless ..... ain't going back.     

Compliance:   I was concerned that the bike would be too stiff/rough as I was upgrading from a bigger tire bike with lots-O-flex.   No need for concern, in fact pleasantly surprised..... Quite a bit more compliance than I was expecting.   This is my first carbon bike .... so maybe it's the carbon and they all ride this nice.... but this bike seems to be stiff in all the right places and goes when you tell it to, while still offering great compliance in all the right spots imo.

Tire Size:   As has been widely reported, this bike won't take a 40mm tire.  The MSO tubeless 36's swelled a little on the Swiss rims, and are perfect (max) for this bike (imo).   Frankly, while I knew this going in, I felt like I was "settling" and may regret the inability to get a 40 on the rear.    I no longer feel this way....the performance of the swelled tubeless 36 Schwalbe is more tire than I need for my riding (obviously ymmv).  For my riding,  if this tire isn't enough, a couple mm more wouldn't be either.    To each his own on this point.

Next Plan:   I also picked up some skinny (for me anyway) 30mm road tires that I planned to play with too.   Not sure when I will get to that, having too much fun already.

Hope this adds value somewhere.


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The weights that some of you are getting are pretty impressive.  I was pleasantly surprised by the weight of my own at 19.69 pounds with pedals (8,9 kg).  Mine is full Ultegra except for the 105 cassette, which I will soon replace with Ultegra as well.  Has the stock 4za finishing kit, Blackburn Camber CF bottle cages and wheels upgraded to HED Belgium Plus with I9 Road Disc hubs & CX Ray spokes wrapped in Compass Barlow Pass Extralite tires.  If my ride is going to consist of more than 75% of the time spent off road with off camber sections and steep dirt climbs where I could use some knob bite, I run the Clement X'Plor MSO 36, but for 99% of the riding that I do, the Compass are great!  I'm at over 2,300 miles now on the X-Trail and it's definitely the best road bike that I've owned!  It's a crusher on the descents (on and off road)!  With the fairly tall front end, there are probably faster climbing bikes out there, but overall, the X-Trail does everything pretty well! I think that I already mentioned earlier in the thread that I ended up sending the Ridely Fenders back to Competitive Cyclist as they didn't fit well with the flat mount brakes.  Hopefully they'll figure out some new fenders before next winter.
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I just want to point out that there is nothing special about the Ridley fenders or the fender mounts.  I got the plastic rear bridge from Ridley, but then went with standard sks fenders over the proprietary ones.  No complaints.
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My Ridley XTrail C30 I upgraded the group set to Ultegra Di2, added the Enve m50 Wheels.  Next month she will carry me on my first attempt at the DK200.
Very pleased with the bike. Comfortable, fairly light and plenty of clearance for tire selections.  Here in IN many of the 'gravel' roads or small rocks as opposed the the crushed rock or sand in other area.  Bike handles it all.

Took a spill in a race in MI last year. Frame had to be repaired by Cali.  


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Loving my 2016 Xtrail here in the UK. Built up with Ultegra, Shimano Hydraulic discs, Stan Grail rims on Hope Pro 4 hubs and Clement Xplor tubeless tyres. 3T Ergo pro bars have a bit of flex in them too to help with fatigue. Rode it at the Dirty Reiver last month, performed faultlessly. How have people got on with bottom brackets and headsets? Mine are starting to get a bit noisy! 

DSC_0001.jpg Just before the river crossing. Barfly Rainfly rear fender fitted.  DR 2 0469.jpg 
   In action with the superclyde that I am.

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meenanm ... good luck on the DK200, let us know how it/you do

MKandFabcat ... congrats on the Dirty Reiver!    No creaks on mine yet, but she is still new.
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Newface here with an X-Trail Carbon Ultegra mix. I ordered mine with the optional mudguard kit but it came without instructions and to make matters worse, it seems like the screw that goes into the stay bridge is way too short. Does anyone have the assembly instructions for this kit? There seems to be a lot of screws bundled (3 different pairs + one small stay bridge screw).

I'd really like to install the mudguards because both at home on Hokkaido and where I currently live we have a lot of sudden rains and whatnot.
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Bought my mudguard kit from CompetiveCyclist - same thing. The screw for the seatstay was too short, but luckily I had longer screw laying around. It took me a while and a wine cork to get them somewhat right. As you can see, rear fender is not aligned perfectly:[image]  
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FestiveNoodle, oh, could you kindly explain which bolts go where?

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For the seatstay and under the fork, reused existing screws. Added a thin slice of wine cork between the seatstay and the under fork attachments so the fenders doesn't rattle. Be aware that on the back non-drive side attachment will interfere with the through axle a little bit. It will be tricky to get the front attachment behind the hydraulic hose, but it's possible. I think I used the shorter screws at the front and longer at the back. 

The seatstay bridge kept on moving, so I added some electrical tape on the stays, to keep it from sliding down. Also flipped it around, to find the best fender line.

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Many thanks!

I have the same colour scheme as yours by the way, but the Ultegra mix variant (€3600 for full Ultegra was a bit too much for me). They bundled it with DT Swiss R24 Spline DB wheels that are tubeless ready, instead of 2017's stock non-TR Fulcrum Racing 5 DB. Tyres are stock Clement Xplor MSO, planning to get G-One but not sure which (Allround or the other one). Also got a Sigma Rox 11.0 for it because why not.

Going to see how it fares in this weird country next week, probably.
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Update: thanks to FestiveNoodle and some spare bolts and screws the mudguards are now in place! Used a spare screw from my computer parts box for the seatstay bridge.
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The mudguards fit well in the end:

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Also featuring the Topeak Road Morph G pump and the Sigma ROX 11.0 with its combo sensor. Now I need to find a decent plastic bottle holder thing, most stuff sold in shops around here is either cheap- or horrible-looking.

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Well done on fitting the mudguards they look good. I ended up reducing the thickness of the black plastic fixing things by almost 50% to avoid the interference with the thru axle and the disc brake hose.

Now a word of warning for everyone with mudguards fitted: I have just removed my mudguards after about five months. Unfortunately I ended up having to drill out the screw that goes into the top of the forks. Clearly the steel screw doesn't like the aluminium insert, and with an abundance of water and road salt the two became completely siezed. I tried every method known to man to free it, unfortunately the 3mm (hex) button head socket screw will not take much torque without rounding the socket. Drilling it out was the last and only resort. I'm not sure what to do for next winter, but at least I've got a few months to work it out. Perhaps a little grease on installation would have helped!
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Oh, thanks for the warning, I'll add some graphite grease next time I remove the wheel…

Re: thru axle, do you mean the handle getting blocked by the plastic bit? I solved that by screwing it a bit further in, I think.

Waiting on a cheap handlebar extender mount from eBay now so I can install my headlight properly:
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Hi everyone,

I had 2 accidents on the road and my rear derailleur was hurt twice. That is why I am thinking about buying some rear derailleur carbon or aluminum protector, could you recommend anything nice what fits Ridley X-Trail ?

Thank you maybe other users will also need one, it is really better to protect than repair after. And I am not talking only about derailleur because the frame can also be damaged and this can be a very big problem.

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Hi everyone, I had 2 accidents on the road and my rear derailleur was hurt twice. That is why I am thinking about buying some rear derailleur carbon or aluminum protector, could you recommend anything nice what fits Ridley X-Trail ? Thank you maybe other users will also need one, it is really better to protect than repair after. And I am not talking only about derailleur because the frame can also be damaged and this can be a very big problem. Thanks Rafal


Don't think it's worth it. I've seen some clunky protectors for the deraileurs, but the fact is, that with the long arm it cannot be fully shielded. Besides, it might be cheaper to just buy a new deraileur when needed - can find them for around $50 online.
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Hello, all!

I'm still enjoying my Ridley X-Trail and it is now time to get a new set of tires.  I am replacing a set of Schwalbe G-One 35mm.  They were fine tires, but I hoped (perhaps unrealistically) to get more than 2,000 miles out of them, especially considering the price.

2016 Ridley X-Trail model
Hunt Wheels 4Season 25wide 

My riding has turned out to be far more pavement than gravel - I'd say realistically 90/10.

I seem to like wide tires.

I'm intrigued by Maxxis Re-Fuse 700c x 40, but will they fit on this bike?
How about the Specialized Sawtooth 42c?  Surely too big?
Panaracer GravelKing SK 38mm? I know it is a praised tire, but is it more gravel / less road than I need?

Any other wide, fast-rolling, pavement-favoring tires I should consider that might fit this bike?  Thanks, all!


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I wouldn't try fitting anything wider than 38mm rear, the clearance just isn't there.
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Check out the Compass Barlow Pass. I have the extra light version and they're excellent. Supple, fast, excellent handling, good volume, easy tubeless set up and great on and off road. They really are the best!
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Check out the Compass Barlow Pass. I have the extra light version and they're excellent. Supple, fast, excellent handling, good volume, easy tubeless set up and great on and off road. They really are the best!


I had Bon Jons on Stan's Grail, and at 35c, they barely fit in the back.
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I had Bon Jons on Stan's Grail, and at 35c, they barely fit in the back.


Strange. The BP's fit well on my X-Trail, though fairly tight.
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