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FestiveNoodle

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Just want to say that I'm 5'7 ish, and have about 29-29.5 inseam and Small fits perfectly. Even did a bike fit and fitter mentioned that if I would race cx then x-small would fit better, but for anything else, like long days in the saddle small is better fit. I even feel that 100mm stem is a little short. But I also have Ridley Helium SL in small that fits like a glove.

Just replaced stock bars (they were marked as 42cm) with wider 42s Salsa Cowbells, that seems to be a bit wider in the tops. Weather looks super crammy for the next couple days, so wouldn't know how it feels until the weekend.
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itchyrichy

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Thanks everyone - I pulled the trigger on an XS this morning. I too am 5'7ish with a 29 inseam but I figured I'd rather err on the smaller side than not.

Can people confirm that the cassette is an 11/32? The perfbike website claims it is an 11/30 which I have never heard of in the Shimano lineup so I am hoping it is an 11/32 to match the Ridley side.

The bike will arrive on Monday and I will order some 42cm bars to throw on instead of the stock 40's. I like Zipp SL-80 bars but perfbike doesn't sell them so I may have to go to Amazon for those and burn up the Team Performance points on pedals and cages instead.

Thanks!
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Pov1las

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Hi all,

I am considering acquiring the Ridley X-Trail.

From your comments i see that this bike is great on the road. And what about the bike on the gravel / off-road? Is it good on the gravel / off-road to the same level like the cyclo-cross?

Also I would like to ask about the geometry of the bike. Is the geometry of the X trail more close to the road bike or to the cyclo-cross?

And what is your view about the following - if i am planning riding 50% on the road and 50% on the gravel / off-road, should i choose the X-Trail or the cyclo-cross?

Many thanks!
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Thanks everyone - I pulled the trigger on an XS this morning. I too am 5'7ish with a 29 inseam but I figured I'd rather err on the smaller side than not.

Can people confirm that the cassette is an 11/32? The perfbike website claims it is an 11/30 which I have never heard of in the Shimano lineup so I am hoping it is an 11/32 to match the Ridley side.

The bike will arrive on Monday and I will order some 42cm bars to throw on instead of the stock 40's. I like Zipp SL-80 bars but perfbike doesn't sell them so I may have to go to Amazon for those and burn up the Team Performance points on pedals and cages instead.

Thanks!


Cassette is an 11-32, 105/CS-5800
Performance upgraded mine to Ultegra/CS-6800 as per their published spec.

I run 42cm bars too but rather like the OEM bars.
The bar tape too is very good.
I've been waiting to get the parts for other upgrades and then will change out the bars too.
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DrSpoke

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Originally Posted by Pov1las
Hi all,

I am considering acquiring the Ridley X-Trail.

From your comments i see that this bike is great on the road. And what about the bike on the gravel / off-road? Is it good on the gravel / off-road to the same level like the cyclo-cross?

Also I would like to ask about the geometry of the bike. Is the geometry of the X trail more close to the road bike or to the cyclo-cross?

And what is your view about the following - if i am planning riding 50% on the road and 50% on the gravel / off-road, should i choose the X-Trail or the cyclo-cross?

Many thanks!



In my opinion, it leans to the road side of the spectrum.  Probably not quite as much as the Specialized Diverge but more so than the Salsa Warbird.  But, I like that.  That said, the bike is great off-road & on dirt.  There aren't many gravel roads around here though I've ridden those too.  I've got a few hundred miles on dirt w/no issues.  I've run the OEM Challenge 38s and recently added a wheelset w/Schwalbe S-Ones @ 30c.  Also a set w/Open Paves in 27c for the road and light trail.  I used the Challenge tires on road and they did surprisingly well.  And the Schwalbes have been great both on road and off-road.  They don't have much for knobs so they can be a little slippery on side hills and or fast cornering.

The only thing I noticed re geometry is that the steering seemed a little vague at first.  It seemed to move around a little, especially in the wind.  I'm guessing it has low trail even with the slightly slack head tube angle.  Regardless, it corners extremely well even at high speeds.  And now I'm used to it and it's a non issue.

This would be a great bike for your 50/50 purposes.  I'd probably recommend the gravel geometry over cyclocross.  Most that I've read is that the lower bottom bracket and more relaxed frame angles enhance stability and long distance comfort.
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Pov1las

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Thanks for sharing your view.

Can you also please let me know are there in the X Trail necessary holes and space for fitting (i) fenders, and / or (ii) rear rack, and / or child's seat?
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According the manual, Ridley is going to make fenders that fit this model.  But, according to my dealer, they are not yet available.  There are a couple of small bolts on the inside of the fork blades and on the underside of the fork crown for a front fender.  The rear has a small bolt on the back side of the seat tube for this purpose.  Then there will be an attachment for the seat stays which do not have a traditional brake bridge.

On the front there are no bolt holes for a rack on the dropouts.  On the rear there is one bolt hole on each dropout that would, I presume, be used to fit a rack.  There is nothing however higher up so you would have to use a P clamp or a seat post clamp for the upper attachment.
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FestiveNoodle

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This is a great question! When I ordered/picked up my X trail, was under the impression that it would accommodate fenders. But there's no mounting hole in the fork crown, and no brake bridge normal fenders would not fit. For the front was thinking of bending the mount, but for the back zip ties where the brake bridge would be.

Alternatively something like this should work:  

[7015] 

http://ecom1.planetbike.com/7044.html
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The fenders and seat stay mount is mentioned in here:

https://www.ridley-bikes.com/upload/bikes/frames/passports/x-trail_passport-x-trail_1453879386345511.pdf

The fork crown fender mount is underneath the crown.
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FestiveNoodle

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For regular fenders I was thinking on taking regular crown mount, bolting it to a fender and then bending it horizontally, for the front. And back needed the bridge or maybe zipties. So far neither the removable bridge or the propriety fenders are nowhere to be seen. 
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alembical

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Performance got me the rear seat stay fender bridge. I still haven't installed it though. Currently using sks longboard fenders with rear seat stay clamps for mounting and drilled hole through the front fender for mounting under front fork. Working great.
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FestiveNoodle

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Performance got me the rear seat stay fender bridge. I still haven't installed it though. Currently using sks longboard fenders with rear seat stay clamps for mounting and drilled hole through the front fender for mounting under front fork. Working great.


Did they special ordered it for you? How much did it cost?
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alembical

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They did not charge me.  It is much simpler and less impressive than I thought it would be, but I plan to install it the next time I install the fenders... after I remove them again first [smile]

A LBS quoted me $20 something for the part.
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FestiveNoodle

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They did not charge me.  It is much simpler and less impressive than I thought it would be, but I plan to install it the next time I install the fenders... after I remove them again first [smile]

A LBS quoted me $20 something for the part.


Thanks! Could take a picture of this bridge? Going to try and call performance and see if they can get it for me too.
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alembical

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I will try and remember to take a picture of the part.

Part Number is: FRPBRIRID001  X-Trail C S/S  Bridge 

It is two black pieces of plastic, held together by the bolt holding the fenders on.  Nothing to protect the paint of the frame and very simple.
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cew

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Not to be too weight weenie and I know this isn't a weight weenie bike, but what does the CR1 weight stock?  [smile]
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alembical

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Reply with quote  #45 
I wish I had weighed mine when stock.  I have Ultegra cranks, FSA K-light post, WTB Silverado saddle, Thomson Stem, 2 water bottle cages, pump and pump mount under a cage, different tires, running full fenders currently, and a few other changes that make it hard to know what stock was.  I believe stock was just under 20.

Frame is listed at 1055 grams and fork 490 grams.  That should make comparison to other bikes a little easier.

Weight seems reasonable.  Could easily be in the 18 range or below with different wheels and tires.  None of the stock stuff is super heavy or needs immediately replacing.

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itchyrichy

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A few thoughts on the setup of my $1250 A30 model:
1. Unboxing / set up was fairly straight forward. I simply had to attach the bars & seatpost and then cable up the front derailleur and front disc caliper.

2. The stock disc pads on the bike are absolute junk. My old Cannondale with mini-V's stopped much better and it was quite a let down on the first shakedown ride. I swapped the stock pads out for these with "night & day" results:
http://www.amazon.com/Swisstop-Disc-Pads-Shimano-Deore/dp/B003WFZQUY/ref=sr_1_fkmr0_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1454947306&sr=8-3-fkmr0&keywords=swissstop+d15

3. Tons of clearance for my 45NRTH Gravdal studded 38c tires mounted on the stock wheelset as you can see in the picture.
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I think I'd like to purchase a set of Mavic Aksium Disc wheels this Springtime to have as my primary wheelset so I can keep one set mounted with road wheels and another set mounted with gravel/CX tires. Any opinions on those?

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itchyrichy

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If anyone out there has upgraded their stock wheels and wants to sell their original ones please send me a private message as I am in the market for a second set. Thank you!
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Reply with quote  #48 
Dammit.  I was ready to pull the trigger on a Jamis Renegade.   But the reviews I've been reading on the Ridley have me re-thinking this whole thing.    I may be in a "you can't go wrong with either" situation,  but it would be really nice to test ride some of these which I can't. 
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Can anyone here offer some feedback on suitability of the X-Trail to cyclocross racing? I do a mix of gravel/trail riding and cyclocross racing, am coming from a Specialized Crux that I just sold, and the geometry looks reasonably close (taller head tube, shorter ETT, 3mm lower BB drop) otherwise quite close. I'm not an elite cross racer, but mid-pack or better Master's. Has anyone raced theirs in CX, or have enough experience with CX to have any insights? I'm looking at building one up with Force 1 and a fairly light wheelset for cross.

Thanks in advance!
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alembical

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Winter tires and fenders are off. Now is time for playing on the gravel.  50 miles of mostly gravel riding.  Perfect bike for these conditions. 

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