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DB

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Congrats on yours too - and sounds like a great first ride.  Can't wait to take mine out on a trail this weekend.
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asleepatthekeel

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When I posted about pre-ordering two Tamlands last year I unfortunately had to cancel when life got in the way. So a year went by with me salivating constantly and well, I finally got my Tamland 2 built about a week ago. Wife is shopping for something else because the 52 would be a tad big I fear. I now have two bikes crammed into my small office to sit and stare at (other bike is a Cervelo R3).
Anyway, the Tamland 2 is a beauty and a joy to ride. I was a bit surprised that when I showed up on the group road ride with the T2 (tires @ 65lbs) I was able to keep up pretty easily.
I'm still tweaking the fit a little and hope to be able to keep the stock stuff and make it work. Only problem is I keep looking at all the GG pictures from around the country and we just don't have that here in central Texas so I'm a bit envious. I'll keep our winter though.
I'm very happy with everything about the T2 however I'll agree with G Ted and some of the other reviewers that it could have been geared more toward the low end rather than the top. More riding will tell.
Anybody else purchased one of these bike and have another opinion?
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I'm on the fence between the Tamland and the Willard -- I really like the ride/feel of aluminum frame+carbon fork bikes, and appreciate any weight savings I can get out there on the dusty roads.
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The Willard's a nice bike for sure. What sold me was the steel build. It was love at first sight for me. I'm old enough that as a kid, if you had a Raleigh, you were the stuff! I like the lines, ride and feel of the Tamland. Regardless of what you choose, I'm glad that you're looking Raleigh. Good to see them back on the playing field, even if they do come with a "made in China" sticker. I took that off!
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I'm finally picking up my tamland2 this weekend. Come summer I'm planning on using this bike 50% of the time for light touring stuff. Can I get by with the stock wheels with 28/32 tires or would it makes sense to invest in another lighter wheelset? If so, where's a good place to start?
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The stock wheelset is pretty burly. I should think that if you are keeping the load within reason those will do well.
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I'll probably change out my chain rings before I spring for new wheels.

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   I walked into my local REI during their big sale, and behold there was a Tamland 1 on clearance. I had been mulling over a gravel bike even though I dont have alot, if any gravel where I live(SoCal). After a quick test ride, it was on my car rack. What a great ride! Thanks Guitar Ted for your reviews and input on the Tamland. I'm probably going to go tubeless with Stan's grail wheelset, in respect to the brake clearance issue, did you have to put shims under the rotor and then move the calipers more outboard when you ran the AC Hurricanes?
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Has anyone ridden the Willard? How much harsher is it? I like the look better and wouldn't mind dropping a pound or two.
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Has anyone ridden the Willard? How much harsher is it? I like the look better and wouldn't mind dropping a pound or two.

I have only ridden the Willard (yesterday, in fact), and I didn't find it harsh at all. It was on pavement, but I hit as many cracks and bumps as I could find. No idea how much pressure was in the tires, but they were pretty firm.

It's steers more snappily than I had assumed; much more like a cross bike than a longer/lower "gravel" ride such as the Giant Anyroad (which handles like a boat). I'm not convinced the geometry difference between the Willard and my KHS cross bike are even noticeable, which puts me back to wondering if I should even replace it with the Willard.

A nearby (30 miles) bike store has a 60cm Tamland 1 in stock for me to test, and I would do that this weekend for comparison, but we're supposed to get a bunch of snow and I don't think I'll make the drive. Maybe next weekend!


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What color was it?
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AlanEsh

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Silver with red.
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I'm looking at the Willard 1 in black and army green. Unfortunately no one seems to have one in Western Mass, so I may have to purchase on faith. Everything I've read indicates it's the right bike for me.
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   I walked into my local REI during their big sale, and behold there was a Tamland 1 on clearance. I had been mulling over a gravel bike even though I dont have alot, if any gravel where I live(SoCal). After a quick test ride, it was on my car rack. What a great ride! Thanks Guitar Ted for your reviews and input on the Tamland. I'm probably going to go tubeless with Stan's grail wheelset, in respect to the brake clearance issue, did you have to put shims under the rotor and then move the calipers more outboard when you ran the AC Hurricanes?


I actually was using an American Classic Hurricane wheel set when I found it made a tinging noise here and there, which turned up the caliper clearance issue. A few judicious tweaks to pull the rim toward the brake side a hair, (dishing the spokes ever so slightly), did the trick. I maybe turned the nipples a degree or two. It wasn't much, but all you have to do is have the spokes clear by any amount and you should be good.
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Alan,
Have you had a chance to ride the Tamland? If so, how did it compare to the Willard? I've yet to find a Raleigh shop in Mass that has either bike in stock.
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Alan, Have you had a chance to ride the Tamland? If so, how did it compare to the Willard? I've yet to find a Raleigh shop in Mass that has either bike in stock.


Hi Walt,

I haven't had a chance to ride it yet; the weather here has been total sh_t, and I've been out of the state a bit. I'm not 100% sure I'll ride the Tamland; the Willard 2 is spec'd the same as the Tamland 1, and geometry is identical, so I'm not feeling a strong need to ride it now.
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I just got a new Tamland One last week and hope to get it out this weekend for its maiden voyage. I got the One version to get the black frame and the shop I bought it from let me modify the drivetrain a bit. I went with a 50/34 105 crankset, 11-32 cassette, medium cage rear derailleur and then went with the RS-685 cable/hydraulic shifters and brakes. I also swapped out the wheels for a set of Grails and some 38mm Specialized Trigger Pros. I've just gotten some of the initial adjustments done, but am really looking forward to a longer ride to see how it feels. It feels great riding around in front of the house.
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After spending much of the Winter obsessively searching and evaluating, I picked up my Raleigh Tamland 1 last month. This bike hit all my markers: components (Shimano 105 11 speed), disc brakes, 40 mm tire clearance, and steel frame. As an old guy, the tipping point was probably the fact that my first real racing machine in the late 1960's was a Raleigh Professional, and being a Swede the Tamland 1 hits the criteria of "lagom" - the word that in some ways defines the Swedish cultural mentality. Think Volvo instead of Mercedes or Kia. I was also able to get one from my favorite local bike shop: Twin Ports Cyclery who ordered me a 2015 model for $1,500.

I've named it Gruscykel which, of course, is Swedish for gravel bike. As an experienced rider there was some tweaking on the parts. Weight is not a major factor for me, so I added a Selle Anatomica leather saddle, made next door in Wisconsin and a Thomson zero-offset seatpost. I love leather saddles! I also found the handlebars not to my liking, so added a set of Salsa Cowbells. Although I'm almost 5' 10" I have long legs and a short torso, so the 54 cm fit better than the 56. I still had to swap the offset seatpost for the zero to bring my saddle into the right position for me. I've gone through this process with every bike I've ever owned and the Tamland was no exception.

So the season (for me) has just begun up here in far Northern Minnesota so I've only put 100 (outdoors instead of turbo training) miles on the bike. I have to say that after riding aluminum for many years, the subtle compliance of good Reynolds 621 steel is really wonderful. The bike just feels alive. Also, the handling is far more like a road bike than a mountain bike. I was expecting more a touring bike feel, but the front end is nicely lively yet on gravel tracks like a train. I suppose those Clement MSO tires are part of it and on pavement make a pleasant sound.

I've already signed up for my first gravel race. This fall, I'm planning to ride the Mickelson Trail in the Black Hills. I'm 66 y/o and haven't raced for probably 30 years. I had quadruple bypass a little over 2 years ago and returning to serious riding was the key to a wonderful recovery. Cycling is the idea form of exercise for anyone coming back from a heart problem since you can calibrate your effort very precisely and, wearing a heart monitor both track your fitness gains and spot any anomalies. After surgery, I started the Cycling Club International on Strava for others like me. We now have 27 members from all over the world.

See you on the road (gravel!)

G. Olson


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Viking,

Nice write up on your Tamland. I have the Tamland 2 and simply love it. I did my first gravel race last weekend out in the Texas Hill Country (Castell Grind) and the bike performed wonderfully for 100k. Soaked up the washboard and I never went down in the regular sand pits we encountered. Funny, I also installed a Selle Anatomica (the black leather with copper rivets looks great on my red Tamland) and have stopped my search for something better. Very comfortable and sexy as heck. 
The FSA bar is not my favorite but don't dislike it enough to spring for something new yet. First priority is probably to switch the 53 / 36 crank set for a 50 / 34. I've bid on a few on e bay but I guess others need it worse than I do. 
Enjoy your Tamland and let us know how you like it once you've completed your race. 
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The Tamland 1 comes with a 50/34 crank which is perfect. It's 11 speed, so the cassette is 11-28 and I picked up an 11-32 just to give me a bit more range.

We have a great gravel race up here (Duluth, MN) in October called the Heck of the North. This year I believe they plan on offering a "Half-a-Heck" or what I call the Darn of the North. The Heck is over 100 miles, so the Half might be just right for me. They ride some of the snowmobile trails which can be pretty tough and if you've ever been up in this neck of the woods you know our hills are endless and steep!
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Has anyone changed the fork on their Tamland?

A guy in our local club is selling an almost new Whisky 7, for $150.

It has a 45mm rake, compared to the 50mm of the Tamland.

You guys think this is a good idea?

I have a 56cm Tamland and wanted to cut some weight. Already have sights on a set of Grails. The carbon fork has now become an option.

Thanks!
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I'd be wary of reducing my fork rake on a gravel bike, but that's an amazing deal (assuming the steerer isn't cut too short for your setup).
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There's plenty of steerer left, and it's in great shape.

I was thinking the 45mm rake would be OK, as some people have had success with changing their Vayas to the same Whisky fork. The Vaya, like the Tamland, has a 50mm rake fork as stock.
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Might as well try it and if you don't like it swap it back and resell [cool]
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What is the largest tire size anyone has used on their Tamland? Recall GT saying he had 1.8" installed but may not have had good mud clearance. Looking to go as big as possible to ride more single track.
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