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Gerard Vroomen
Well, the geo chart height indicator also shows that the Large is 5'10-6'2, so that also includes your height. Maybe you missed that. Just like the Warbird geo chart also says you may fit the 57.5cm frame. Anyway, that rough height indicator is just that. Which frame is the best fit depends in the end on your riding position more than your exact height.

Back to the numbers, the Large UP is 4mm lower and 5mm longer than the 56cm Warbird, so very close (5mm longer, not 6mm as some might think looking at the reach figures due to stack/reach interconnection). The Medium UP is 20mm shorter. So the 56cm is a lot closer to the Large than to the UP, and unless people ride around on a 56cm Warbird with a 70mm stem (then indeed I wouldn't say "hey, why not put a 65mm stem on your UP) but barring an already short stem, this means that people riding a 56cm Warbird fit a Large UP, and usually not a medium.

Gerard Vroomen
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ljsmith
Gerard Vroomen wrote:
Well, the geo chart height indicator also shows that the Large is 5'10-6'2, so that also includes your height. Maybe you missed that. Just like the Warbird geo chart also says you may fit the 57.5cm frame. Anyway, that rough height indicator is just that. Which frame is the best fit depends in the end on your riding position more than your exact height.

Back to the numbers, the Large UP is 4mm lower and 5mm longer than the 56cm Warbird, so very close (5mm longer, not 6mm as some might think looking at the reach figures due to stack/reach interconnection). The Medium UP is 20mm shorter. So the 56cm is a lot closer to the Large than to the UP, and unless people ride around on a 56cm Warbird with a 70mm stem (then indeed I wouldn't say "hey, why not put a 65mm stem on your UP) but barring an already short stem, this means that people riding a 56cm Warbird fit a Large UP, and usually not a medium.


Ive been riding for 30 years, it could be that I know which frame size I would need better than you do. Rather than let you put me on a bigger frame I’ll just go with a frame that actually fits. In reality, with the UP I would want a frame between your Medium and large sizes, but of course it would need more stack height. So when I was looking for a bike, I looked at the UP and quickly crossed it off my list as you really don’t have a bike that fits the way I want. For others with different needs than me it might be perfect. FYI, I use a 90mm Shock Stop Stem on my 56 Warbird. They do not make the Shock Stop in smaller than 90mm, so that’s not going to work for me on your 57cm UP.
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HollyBoni
The new Warbird comes with slightly shorter stems. Nothing crazy tho. Compard to last years model they slightly increased the top tube length and slackened the head angle to 70.75 degrees on most sizes.
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