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Cmtgravel

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I'm in the market for a strong, reliable gravel wheelset that will stan up do abuse on rough gravel roads under a 210lb rider. Disc-ready, shimano 11spd compatible, dont really care much about weight or tubeless. Was looking at stan's grail and mavic ksyrium allroad. Suggestions? Pref $600 or under.
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American Classics has a lower priced option, the TCX disc.  Tubeless but easily run regular tires with tubes.  
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H Plus Son Hydra rims
Bitex BX 106 hubs
Sapim Force spokes
Sapim brass secure lock nipples
32h3x front and rear

$550 shipped

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Mavic Askium - you can get them here https://www.biketiresdirect.com/product/mavic-aksium-disc-clincher-wheelset?v=aks0000&adl=1&gclid=Cj0KCQjwvOzOBRDGARIsAICjxoeguAe6Gt0g-njrQIGXp3R7e2cdHSpUDCoMKf2n4KbaWpW-fH2oaZoaAglAEALw_wcB

I own 3 sets and use across 2 of my bikes from road riding to gravel - unless you are going pro - no need to spend more. 
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Mavic are junk and biketiresdirect.com is the enemy. Stay away from both.  
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I've had zero bad experience with either the mavic wheelsets or biketiresdirect.com - sounds like you have had a different ( really bad ) experience - sorry to hear that!
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Don't take this personally but Mavic have consistently produced the worst factory built wheels on the planet for the last 20+ years. I've been building wheels for 30, and on average my hands see more wheel sets in a year than there are days. Large contingent of my customer base are factory built converts who made the mistake of thinking they're getting quality for a bargain. Biggest problem over the years with Mavic has been their FTS hubs, which is unfortunately still featured on all the low end wheels. Their high end has moved along to a different design ID360 which is actually proven to be quite good. However, those Aksium wheels are also relegated to 24 hole. The OP stated that they were 210lbs. Low spoke count wheels for everyday use and people in the .1 ton range is pretty far from the ideal solution.

On the retail front; the internet price war stores like BTD only exist because the distribution channels (middle men) have become so corrupt over the years that this is the kind of marketplace they produced. How do I know? I worked at two of the biggest distributors in the world and have a deep knowledge of their business practices. That doesn't excuse places like BTD, they and the rest of these discount stores are constantly violating MAP rules. Another nice little fast one they pull is purchasing OEM parts through the grey market by the pallet and severely undercutting the local shops. They don't play fair, none of them. It's a real problem when shops can buy parts from the internet at wholesale prices, and with better stock in some cases than their usual distributors. We could start an entire thread on that, but let's stay on the topic of wheels here for the sake of keeping it simple.

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Ok I have a 150 euro for a rear wheel, and nothing on the market..Did I miss something? Whole new bike cheap one is for 500 euro on sale. Did again I miss something?
Need a 10/11 speed Shimano disc [smile]..
Lot of standards over there, lot of overpriced items over there..And then someone made a 100 euro wheel..Ups, its a crap..So I need to jump on 300 euro crap?
You up there say that you are in this business 20+: so provide us the best wheels for money, please. The other point is just Mavic do the right thing: sold crap on crappy price. Blow the area in some way, he he.
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@ridemagnetic seems like you have a ton of experience on this topic. Thanks for sharing.
Fortunately for me, I'm light enough that I m not busting these crappy wheels :-) 
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I'm not sure I'm super light weight - 6'2" @162 lbs, but I've destroyed three sets of Mavic wheels (all on the rear). Ksyrium, Aksium, and Aksium - I will never buy another set of their wheels, just don't seem reliable enough. Not trying to add fuel to that fire, but if you want reliable (which the OP is all about), then I would consider something else. I've also had some issues with Roval, ripped the rim at the spoke nipples, on front and rear, but my carbon Roval's have been bombproof. So, maybe I just got unlucky with the Mavic wheels, but seems odd that all three would have issues. 

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I really like my DT Swiss R24 Spline db, you can find them well below €300 these days since DT Swiss are selling a new range now. Sure they are 1.7 kg or so for the wheelset, but they roll great, and my other set has clocked in around 14 000 km without any maintenance required — not even tensioning. They are very well built straight from the factory.
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Ridemagnetic...

Do you sell wheels direct or work for an outfit that does that we could buy from? If not, is there a wheel builder you would buy from if you weren't obviously capable of building your own, knowing what you know?

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I do sell direct. Pardon my site, next few days it will be down for a remodel. I also build all the wheels for Rodeo Adventure Labs. That said I'm a big proponent of buying local, especially for the price point of wheels that have been discussed on this thread. If you have a shop that is wheel savvy or a known builder near you always go that route.  
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I do sell direct. Pardon my site, next few days it will be down for a remodel. I also build all the wheels for Rodeo Adventure Labs. That said I'm a big proponent of buying local, especially for the price point of wheels that have been discussed on this thread. If you have a shop that is wheel savvy or a known builder near you always go that route.  


Man I'd kill for a set Rodeo carbon hoops, soooo sexy. Keep up the good work!
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Thanks shoota! It's been a helluva ride. Lots more wheel things coming from myself and Rodeo in the new year.. Stay tuned! [thumb]
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I'm in the market for a strong, reliable gravel wheelset that will stan up do abuse on rough gravel roads under a 210lb rider. Disc-ready, shimano 11spd compatible, dont really care much about weight or tubeless. Was looking at stan's grail and mavic ksyrium allroad. Suggestions? Pref $600 or under.


I'm also a builder and happy to ship, and with several customers (all happy, I hope) from this forum.

You could have a very nice hand built set from me or some other builder for your $600 budget.  DT Swiss 350 or Hope hubs, high quality DB spokes, and rims such as Pacenti Forza, Velocity Aileron, or H plus Son Hydra.  Hope RS4 hubs?   216924_00_d.jpg 

Let me know!

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Does anyone know of a 700c black rim wheelset that will work with rim brakes that is less than 300 dollars, preferably less than 200-250?
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