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Just checking to see if anyone has any Raleigh news. Recently I inquired by email about 2018 USA bikes and the response was a little strange.

Basically they said no high end road bikes and we should still have our all road bikes, this Fall. 
Hmmm not exactly inspiring information there. Then I wandered over to Raleigh UK and looked at that site and it doesn't have much to offer. https://www.raleigh.co.uk/bikes/road

Gone is the UK version of the WIllard AKA "Mustang" 
Considering the fire sale going on at the US site and lack of any news this is not good for Raleigh fans. Nothing from Sea Otter Classic this year that I could find either.
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Well, I wouldn't expect too much. The entire Raleigh team (product development, marketing & graphics) are all gone. Basically everyone who was responsible for 2017 and prior is no longer with the company. I have heard they will be doing some nice Tamland's, so I'm looking forward to seeing those. Oh and yes, I believe all carbon high end stuff is out. Word on the street anyway....
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Thanks that is interesting, I thought something was strange this year. Seems like Raleigh is going all in on the family and ebike trend. Anyway I hope the Tamland is refreshed with hydros, flatmounts, fork mounts all in a couple different offerings.


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Thanks that is interesting, I thought something was strange this year. Seems like Raleigh is going all in on the family and ebike trend. Anyway I hope the Tamland is refreshed with hydros, flatmounts, fork mounts all in a couple different offerings.




I probably would buy a Raleigh Tamland ti or carbon if the price was right. [biggrin]

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Carbon Tamland is a Roker. [smile] 
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2 local bike shops in my area dropped Raleigh last year.  One of them told me he used be in the top 20 for Raleigh sales in the country.  He said they became impossible to deal with.  They wouldn't receive their inventory because they were told there was no stock and then it would end up discounted elsewhere.  He also wasn't happy when they dropped bikes like the Revenio, which was a very solid mainstream endurance road bike.  He told me he had a year when he sold more of those that Specialized's Roubaix and then suddenly it was gone.  

The owners at Raleigh don't seem to know what direction they want to go in year after year.  The whole family e-bike idea would not surprise me.

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2 local bike shops in my area dropped Raleigh last year.  One of them told me he used be in the top 20 for Raleigh sales in the country.  He said they became impossible to deal with.  They wouldn't receive their inventory because they were told there was no stock and then it would end up discounted elsewhere.  He also wasn't happy when they dropped bikes like the Revenio, which was a very solid mainstream endurance road bike.  He told me he had a year when he sold more of those that Specialized's Roubaix and then suddenly it was gone.  

The owners at Raleigh don't seem to know what direction they want to go in year after year.  The whole family e-bike idea would not surprise me.



When you offer consumers prices lower than dealer's cost, it's no shock that you get dropped.
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"Still in the game" is a little extreme. How many other brands had THAT many different gravel and cyclocross bikes in the USA for 2017? A dozen or more total? The ten Cadents and Alyssas are darn near flat bar Willards as well. Even if they didn't do anything new for 2018, that's still a pretty impressive offering.

I don't think there's much much crossover between the USA and UK Raleigh name/brands for a long time.

LBS dropping Raleigh doesn't seem uncommon. A lot of the brands owned by Accell Group seem to be transitioning into direct (online) sales. I don't know why they would stick with the traditional style road bike like the Revenio when their sister companies like Lapierre are killing it on that front.
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"Still in the game" is a little extreme. 

Not really when Raleigh employees state there will be no high end road bikes this year and maybe there will be an all road segment which is the hottest category right now. I think it's a fair question.
Here's the ebike they are floating around.

Photo credit=bikerumor 
Raleigh-Izip-ebikes-stuntman-ie-sea-otter-2017-12.jpg

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Not really when Raleigh employees state there will be no high end road bikes this year and maybe there will be an all road segment which is the hottest category right now. I think it's a fair question.
Here's the ebike they are floating around.


They haven't made a high end road bike in a couple years. They stopped the Militis in 2015 and that model was getting a little long in the tooth then. Why should Raleigh keep going after the slumping road racer market? Accell has that covered pretty well with their other brands. Lapierre doesn't seem to have a single road racer frame older than two years.

Gravel/All-road and electric are by far the fastest growing segments which Raleigh seems to be doing very well with. Raleigh Electric is somewhat separate from Raleigh, but still under Accell. The decisions are likely mostly coming from Accell, but I still fail to see many holes in the cyclocross/gravel/all-road offerings from Raleigh.
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Well it would certainly be great if they would get some bikes in stock!  Been waiting on a 58cm Willard 2 for months.  Supposedly end of July now.  At $850 seems to be very hard to beat for the value and weight.  Don't really want the Willard 1.  


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Well it would certainly be great if they would get some bikes in stock!  Been waiting on a 58cm Willard 2 for months.  Supposedly end of July now.  At $850 seems to be very hard to beat for the value and weight.  Don't really want the Willard 1.  


I saw this while on Amazon and thought about this post. Acvtually beat the price, check it out. 
I have a Willard1 and love it, best bike I've owned.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MY7ZRR6?tag=viglink20276-20
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I saw this while on Amazon and thought about this post. Acvtually beat the price, check it out. 
I have a Willard1 and love it, best bike I've owned.

https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01MY7ZRR6?tag=viglink20276-20


The only one for $816 was the 58cm the rest were $1299


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Rover!!  You da man!  I feel like an idiot for not actually checking Amazon.  I think I have found my new ride given that I need a 58!

thanks so much guys  
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Price went up overbite, hope you snagged one
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Price went up overbite, hope you snagged one


What is the difference in the ride between the Willard and the Tamland 1?

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I haven't ridden a Tamland steel vs alloy but have put over 3000miles on my Willard.
The Willard is by far the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden, not that I have ridden all that many. It is a much better ride than my previous Kona Rove.
No complaints at all, I wish I would've gotten the 2 but I wasn't sure if I'd like it so went with the 1. I might pick up a 2016 w2 if they come back in supply or wait to see what the new Tamlands are like. .
What I like the most is the geometry suits me perfectly size 60
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I haven't ridden a Tamland steel vs alloy but have put over 3000miles on my Willard. The Willard is by far the most comfortable bike I've ever ridden, not that I have ridden all that many. It is a much better ride than my previous Kona Rove. No complaints at all, I wish I would've gotten the 2 but I wasn't sure if I'd like it so went with the 1. I might pick up a 2016 w2 if they come back in supply or wait to see what the new Tamlands are like. . What I like the most is the geometry suits me perfectly size 60


I don't have much to compare to in the mt. bike end as I had a used Schwinn Highlander which was just a step above a Wally World bike. I do love my Tamland though in a 56m I usually ride a 57cm in Lemond.

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I don't have much to compare to in the mt. bike end 


No comparison to a modern mountain bike, two different species [wink] While you can ride some trails, the long wheelbase and low bottom bracket get in the way. Mix in sand mud and rock gardens and you will want a 29er
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Well it would certainly be great if they would get some bikes in stock!  Been waiting on a 58cm Willard 2 for months.  Supposedly end of July now.  At $850 seems to be very hard to beat for the value and weight.  Don't really want the Willard 1.  




Loved mine until it was stolen.  62 hasn't been in stock for months now.  Bah.
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Price went up overbite, hope you snagged one


LOL! No I didn't.  I had it in the cart and was going to pull the trigger and poof....price change!  I sent them a nice note on that. 

However, I did test ride a Fuji Jari and loved it.  The PerformanceBike 4th sale is really a great deal on the 1.4 LE so I actually snagged one today.  A bit more than the Willard but via the member log in on Raleigh but less than the retail price so I am pretty happy.  The Jari is very similar to riding my road bike and the geometry is almost identical. 

http://www.performancebike.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/Product_10052_10551_1216572_-1_401105__401105

I like the Jari build better but the Willard is a smoking deal when in stock...

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