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Sepeda

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Greetings from Norway!

My summer bike is BMC Roadmachine 02 and my current bad weather/winter bike is GT Grade Alu X.

Due to rough local conditions, I am looking for a new drop bar gravel/adventure bike that takes both 700c/28" and 650b/27.5" - and has clearance for heavy duty 27.5" studded tyres like Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro (ISP) or Suomi WXC 300, both 2.25".

I have seen Open U.P. with ISP 2.25" - looks really cool with those studs (!) - but the frameset is unfortunately way beyond my budget.  

All other similar adventure bikes/frames I have found, with the possible exception of the similarly pricey 3T Exploro, Lynskey GR250 and the more affordable Giant ToughRoad SLR GX, seem to have tyre clearance below 2.1"/56mm.

Any suggestions as to other gravel/adventure bikes that actually has the required clearance, preferably in affordable alu?
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Salsa Fargo: http://salsacycles.com/bikes/fargo/2018_fargo_gx_29

Salsa Cutthroat: http://salsacycles.com/bikes/cutthroat/2018_cutthroat_force_1
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I'd check if Wikkit still has any of their aluminium frame/bike offerings for sale. Either the Q-Bomb or the Bazzuki:- 

http://granfondo-cycling.com/bike-check-beach-bikes-egmond-pier-egmond/


Koga has the Beach Racer aluminium bike. It may have been re-named this year.


Then there's the Wilier Jaroon Plus. Fits 29x3" tyres [biggrin] 
Its a steel frame though. Around 27-28 lbs.
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How about this Falconer?
https://www.cxmagazine.com/falconer-cycles-custom-drop-bar-mountain-bike-monster-cross-steel-gravel

... or maybe the Wilier Jaroon+ which fits 650B+ mid fat's?
https://www.cxmagazine.com/wilier-jaroon-29-plus-drop-bar-steel-frame-adventure-gravel-cyclocross-bike





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NoCoGreg

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Another custom steel...  Yeah, I know it's more than you wanted to spend, but it is a thing of beauty! :-)

https://www.sklarbikes.com/blog/2017/4/16/monstercross-bike
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Probably out of your budget range, but I'm loving my Moots, and its titanium:
http://moots.com/bike/baxter-29/

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It’s not as easy or elegant as buying something complete, but you might consider using a hard tail MTB frame designed for 26” wheels as the platform for a drop-bar setup with extra tire clearance. Many 26ers can also clear 27.5 knobbies while also accommodating 700x30-ish or 650b road tires. I put together one myself last summer as an experiment, having come across a used Indy Fab frame that caught my eye and it turned out better than I could have expected. I’ve got it outfitted with 650bx47 tires and fenders at the moment. Provided you can find a suitable frame, it might be a less expensive way to go if not the most orthodox.

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It’s not as easy or elegant as buying something complete, but you might consider using a hard tail MTB frame designed for 26” wheels as the platform for a drop-bar setup with extra tire clearance. Many 26ers can also clear 27.5 knobbies while also accommodating 700x30-ish or 650b road tires. I put together one myself last summer as an experiment, having come across a used Indy Fab frame that caught my eye and it turned out better than I could have expected. I’ve got it outfitted with 650bx47 tires and fenders at the moment. Provided you can find a suitable frame, it might be a less expensive way to go if not the most orthodox.



Crikey, you did an outstanding job w that conversion—and from a boutique bike maker, no less! It looks so good, it's as if it had been intentionally designed by Indy Fab as a 650B "road plus" drop bar bike from the start.

Once upon a time, I owned an IF steel Planet X cross bike, and of all the bikes I've owned then sold over the years, that's the only one I wish I kept...

Anyway, the devil's in the details, and everything just looks "right"—especially the way the fenders' radius evenly matches the tires' radius.

I'm in the midst of converting my Canfield steel 29er hardtail to a drop bar bike, but if it doesnt work out, then I'm gonna start looking for an IF 26er hardtail. Damn
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Thanks, slo_rider!  Hope your Canfield turns out to your satisfaction!
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drwelby

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There's the Advocate Cycles Seldom Seen, though it looks like it's sold out in the drop bar geometry version. Not sure if they have European distribution.
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You could also consider a Singular Swift; see this article on how you could set it up:

http://www.singularcycles.com/2016/06/14/drop-bar-29ers-gryphon-swift/

Hits a lot of your points - can fit 29 and also 27.5 x 3.0.  Relatively cheap, in my experience Singular is great to deal with.  I had a Gryphon I still regret selling - really nice riding bikes.
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There happens to be a 56cm Seldom Seen on Ebay right now.  I had looked at it yesterday out of curiosity. 

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You could also consider a Singular Swift; see this article on how you could set it up:

http://www.singularcycles.com/2016/06/14/drop-bar-29ers-gryphon-swift/

Hits a lot of your points - can fit 29 and also 27.5 x 3.0.  Relatively cheap, in my experience Singular is great to deal with.  I had a Gryphon I still regret selling - really nice riding bikes.

Be careful on the fit as the ETT is sized for flat bars - about 4 cm longer than a typical drop bar frame.  

Sadly I didn't pick up a Peregrine before Singular dropped production.  

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I have a Singular Swift with drop bars. Great bike!

Top tube is not very long.

I run 29x2.4 and swap the front for a 27.5x2.8 sometimes.
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i'll support these, and add a few more (all steel):

Specialized Sequoia - fits 29 x 1.8" with room for mud, so it should easily fit 27.5 x 2.1"
Salsa Vaya - fits 700 x 50c
Specialized AWOL - fits 29 x 2"

However, the Fargo and the Cutthroat fit 29 x 2.4" tires comfortably (each can fit 29 x 3.0" in the front), so for the really massive tires, either of those would be your best bet (the Fargo is a lot more affordable, the Cutthroat is a full carbon racing bike, essentially)
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Or how about this British bike

http://www.genesisbikes.co.uk/bikes/adventure/adventure/vagabond/vagabond

They're a great value brand
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Sepeda

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A thousand thanks - as we say in Norwegian [smile] - for all your suggestions! Quite a few bikes that are new to me.

I will look into all of them!

I guess what would make my heart beat faster is a more affordable version of Open U.P. or 3T Exploro - that is, a relatively aggressive, modern and fast bike with massive tyre clearance without moving into solid touring or monster cross territory.

I am also looking at the British gravel/adventure frameset Kinesisk Tripster AT with 12mm thru axles, flat mounts and a stated clearance for 2.1" tyres in 650b: http://road.cc/content/review/226602-kinesis-tripster-frameset-2017 I do like it, I would just have wanted a tiny bit more clearance for tyres like Schwalbe Ice Spiker Pro 2,25" for the most demanding winter days [smile]

I am currently running 45nrth Gravdal 38mm on a GT Grade, which works excellent for fair weather winter days - like this ride in the trekking areas around Oslo [smile] 

Winter wonderland with miles and miles of gravel roads - come visit!

  Kikut - GT Grade - 45nrth Gravdal.jpg

GT Grade Sørkedalen.jpg

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