Tasern
Hello Everyone,

Has anyone on here had a chance to ride one of the new Donnelly G//C gravel bikes?

I was looking into the SRAM Rival equipped version at my LBS. They had the large frame in the shop, but since I'm needing the extra small frame, I didn't test ride it.

The alternative bike I'm looking at is the new Salsa Warbird 700 Apex 1X model. The primary thing that gives me pause on the Warbird is for $300 more I can get a full Rival Hydro setup on the Donnelly, and it seems like the wheel set on the Donnelly may be better too. The Donnelly comes with a 2x 48/32 crank, but with the type of riding I do the gearing would work out really well for me. Honestly the 1x on the Warbird would work too  it just wouldn't be "as ideal" with how I'm currently riding. 

I currently ride on rough pavement with the anticipation of riding the local gravel trails once I get my new bike. I'd still expect an 80/20 pavement\gravel split when it's all said and done.  

The Geometry between the XS Donnelly and the 52.5 Warbird are fairly similar. There's a few millimeters here and there that are different with the primary difference being the stand over height.

I know I threw a lot of information in there. Any thoughts or observations would be appreciated.




Link to the Donnelly Rival Version:
https://www.donnellycycling.com/collections/gravel-bikes/products/copy-of-g-c-rival

Link to the Salsa Warbird Apex 1 700:
https://salsacycles.com/bikes/warbird/2019_warbird_carbon_apex_1_700


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ljsmith
I love 1x setups for a stictly gravel bike.  But on the road much higher speeds are possible and at least for me a 1x setup just doesn't cut it because you have to compromise too much.  You can have a large gear range with 1x  so you can go fast and climb steep hills, but then the jumps between gears make it hard to find a good cadence.  So for me 2x is the only way to go on pavement.  Since you are going to be riding mostly pavement (even broken pavement) I think you would be better off with 2x.  
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Zurichman
I would agree with ljsmith on the 2x being better for the road. I have 1x and 2x and wish the 1x was a 2x even for gravel. Another thought is Donnley is a tire manufacture. I had somebody else tell me(a wheel builder) when I asked about a tire maker building a wheel set. Buy a wheel set off somebody that builds wheels not tires. I would say the same about a bike. Buy a bike off a bike builder not a tire manufacture. There are new at this and usually 1st series have some bugs that need worked out not so with bike builders. Good luck


Zman
If it was easy it wouldn't be a memory. You just hope you don't have all your memories in the same ride. been there dun that Zman
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Tasern
Thanks for the responses.

@ljsmith - Yeah, that's one of the appealing things on the Donnelly for me. I wish they still offered a version of the Warbird in a SRAM 2x like they did with last years model. 

@Zurichman - That's the one thing that causes me to pause on the Donnelly bike. As you mentioned in your post. This is their first go around on a new product line.  The LBS owner owns the large version that I mentioned in my original post. He's had it for almost a month now and says he doesn't have any complaints about it.

The LBS is planning in getting the small frame cyclocross variant in house in a couple weeks. I think the geometry is close enough that I could get a pretty good feeling on how the gravel should feel. 

Hopefully some people that have had a chance to ride one will chime in with their experiences. 
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