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Jeb

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Just mounted a pair of the 36mm tubeless MSOs to Velocity Blunt SL rims and the installation was a breeze but both tires have a defect, a side to side wobble by the hot patch so back they go. My LBS where I bought the tires said they had a similar problem with another set of Clements that were not MSOs but tubeless ready. Has anyone else had this problem?
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I have a set of Clement USH 35 tubed/non tubeless with the same issue, I have read of other Clements with the same thing. I ride them, but they are backup tires for sure. I have other tires that are much better.
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I have a set of Clement USH 35 tubed/non tubeless with the same issue, I have read of other Clements with the same thing. I ride them, but they are backup tires for sure. I have other tires that are much better.


Thanks for the reply. It's too bad because I have the 40 and 32mm versions of the MSO and I really like them and so was  looking forward to trying the tubeless version. 
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I got a pair of USH 35s last year and one of them had this same wobble problem. Jensen was real good about sending out a replacement and didn't want the old one back, so I have an emergency tire now.
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I have two sets (tubeless MSO 36 and tubed) .... and haven't had any issues.     Sorry to hear you did.   I love this tire, particularly tubeless on gravel, and rolls great on the hard stuff too.   
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Recently bought 3 of the Clement MSO Tubeless 36.  Mounted on my Enve m50, noticed a huge wobble/bulge. Wheel is true.   deflated, re-sealed, still there.  Tried tire #2 same issue. Bead seal was good and even, tread line was horrible.  3rd one was not nearly as bad, but has a minor bulge.  Planning to ride on that one tomorrow and see if it changes any. First two are being returned for refund.
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Just mounted two MSO 36s yesterday with same issue on each. Tires were purchased in March 2017, not sure about date of manufacture.
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Same issue here.   Probably  purchased in early 2017 and mounted about a month ago.   The LBS called Clement and a warranty replacement was authorized on the spot.  Took a new one home and mounted it immediately.  No issues with the replacement. 

Also...a friend's MSO had the same wobble.  He rode it for many miles w/o issue.   YMMV. 
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Had wobbly tread on a MSO 40 when I purchased a pair two years ago. Very annoying on pavement, esp. at higher speed. LBS swapped it for another one. Apparently Clement lays these up by hand, and it seems they have some problems with consistency. Disappointing​ that the the problems still persist. Fortunately, they're good about taking back the bad ones.
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I just sent back three out of three 700 x 40c 120 tpi MSOs.  One had a small cut in it (never mounted) and the other two had a half centimeter kick out to one side.  


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So here is my question. I had my stock MSOs on my Raleigh Tamland 1 last night made/fitted tubeless. He used 2 ozs. each of WTB TCS sealant. I left the bike in the car overnight and when I just pulled the bike out the front tire is fine but the back tire is flat. There was some discussions on whether the stock tires on the Tamland were tubeless ready or not. Anybody have any thoughts as to what might have happened. Not having a warm fuzzy feeling here at my end. One LBS said if they were 120 lbs. psi not tubeless ready, but he checked online and if they were 60 lbs. psi yest. Mine are I think 60-90 lbs. psi. Is there some marking on the tires to tell if they are tubeless ready or not? Mine are 700 x 40mm BTW

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Zman, the 40mm MSO is not a tubeless ready tire, the MSO 36 is. Mine shows "Clement X'Plor MSO 36x700c Tubeless Ready"
PSI: 40 - 60 Bar: 2.8 - 4.1  ETRTO: 36-622
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I thought I read somewhere where somebody made the 120 lbs. psi tubeless even though it wasn't made for that. Any chance I can still make mine tubeless.

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Zman, the 40mm MSO is not a tubeless ready tire, the MSO 36 is. Mine shows "Clement X'Plor MSO 36x700c Tubeless Ready"
PSI: 40 - 60 Bar: 2.8 - 4.1  ETRTO: 36-622


Yowser them um some really expensive tyres $48 -$62 a pop. I have never paid that much for a road bike tire.

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Zman, are you confusing tpi (threads per inch) with psi (pounds per square inch)?

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Zman, are you confusing tpi (threads per inch) with psi (pounds per square inch)?

 

At this point I am totally clueless in Pa. I called 2 different LBS's to get pricing on making my stock tires on my 2016 Raleigh Tamland 1 tubeless. One Googled it and said he saw that the 120 lb psi was a no go but thought the 700 x 40 cm 60 lb. psi was. Then today I see a post that the tire has on it a statement saying it is tubeless mainly the 700 x 36 cm I then checked the prices on them tonight and they are around $55 - $65 a piece yowser. So now I have to make the following decisions.

1. Ride the stock tires until they are worn out.
2. Buy an expensive set of Clement mso 700 x 36 that are tubeless ready(expensive)
3. Buy a set of Panaracer Gravelking sk which area little bit more reasonable.

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I have had a pair of MSO 36mm for a year and have had good luck with them. Grip well, easy to install tubeless and mine roll straight. I would not recommend them if road is your priority as they would probably wear too fast. I took mine off as my 700c sees mostly road duty. Today I popped them back on to see if they roll straight. Still straight.
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I have had a pair of MSO 36mm for a year and have had good luck with them 


Same here with my 36 mso tubeless they are not a good paved tire .  In fact all of my Clements have been trouble free, MSO 40, Strada Ush 32, MSO36, and USH35





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Have been using MSO 36mm tubeless this year and have found them to be reliable and fully capable of handling all but muddy terrain. Worth the money.
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Have been using MSO 36mm tubeless this year and have found them to be reliable and fully capable of handling all but muddy terrain. Worth the money.


Newbie here but I don't thing they make a very good tire for mud unless you are running knobbies and then that is all they are good for as they will kill you on the road and regular gravel. I don't many of us are going to change our tires out just for mud unless you were going to ride the Alamanzo 100 this year. [biggrin]

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@Zurichman, agree. The only way my MSO's are coming off this Summer is if there is unseasonable amount of wet weather. They will be replaced by dedicated mud friendly tyres for the Winter.
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@Zurichman, agree. The only way my MSO's are coming off this Summer is if there is unseasonable amount of wet weather. They will be replaced by dedicated mud friendly tyres for the Winter.


So what are your winter tyres?


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Used WTB crosswolf (as they came with the bike). Thought they were very versatile. Reasonable in the mud and rolled quite well on pavement.
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Yep, my set of 36 both wobble badly.  I rode them for a while but it was annoying.  I swapped to a set of Kenda Flintridge 35c and have been happy on those.  Need to get back in touch with Clement about warranty.
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A couple months ago I bought a Jamis Renegade Exploit with these tires stock. Haven't had problems though I do run them with tubes.
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