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SteeleWheels

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I talked to USPS and they said you cannot - someone must be home to receive it. The way international express works is that once it comes to your delivering post office, it is sent out immediately, regardless of whether your normal mail has already gone out or not. Someone must be at home to sign, or you will get a note to pick up at the office. If you’re lucky you can pick up right before they close, assuming the postman has already returned from her shift with your package.


They said they are going to try and deliver it between 12 and 1 when my wife is home for lunch. Keeping my fingers crossed. Nice living in a smallish town.
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Delivered. USPS delivered it while my wife was home for lunch just like they said they would. Yeah! Carbonda Package (1).png
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Delivered. USPS delivered it while my wife was home for lunch just like they said they would. Yeah! Carbonda Package (1).png


Finally! Congrats. Awesome you finally got it!
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SteeleWheels

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Finally! Congrats. Awesome you finally got it!


Thanks. Wife sent me the pic. Never thought I'd be so happy to see a picture of a box before. When I get home tonight I'll inspect and post more pics. Might even do an unboxing video.
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Thanks. Wife sent me the pic. Never thought I'd be so happy to see a picture of a box before. When I get home tonight I'll inspect and post more pics. Might even do an unboxing video.


Congrats! Please don’t be an idiot like me and forget to take pictures. Also if you could list the weights as well for the various parts that’d be helpful too, along with your build list. Looking forward to it!
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Some photos from me

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Really bad angle of braking cable. On fork same bad angle.

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Got it all built up. Ordered the frame on Jan 18 and received it on the US East Coast on Feb 2. Took it out for a really quick spin today to dial in the shifting. I had it built last weekend, but had to wait for the rear axle nut that I didn't know I had to order separately.

Most parts were taken off another bike except for the brakes and shifters.

Parts list:
CFR505 Frame (small) The color is a matte/metalic dark gray. Not exactly what I wanted, but went with it when I got a pic of the painted frame.
Carbonda Seatpost  
FarSports 38mm Carbon Tubeless clinchers (25mm width) w/DT Swiss 350 hubs
Schwalbe Pro One 28mm tires (will be swapping those out for Schwalbe X-one tires for offroad use)
160mm (front and rear) Shimano R8000 rotors
Shimano Ultegra Di2 6870 Front and Rear Derailleur
Shimano Ultegra r8000 hydraulic brakes
Shimano R785 Di2/Hydraulic Shifters
Quarq DFour Power meter (and Dura-Ace 9000 Chainrings)
Shimano PD-6800 Pedals
Deda Zero 100 80mm Stem
Easton EC70 Aero Handlebars (40mm)
Selle Italia Max Flite Gel saddle
K-Edge combo mount
Custom decals (I applied them, not Carbonda)
Fizik Soft-touch tape
Cheap carbon bottle cages from Ebay

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SteeleWheels

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Ok, I unboxed it. I'm not a very good photographer and I'm tired but here are some pics. 
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BSA ThreadsIMG_20180212_183857760.jpg


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I should add that it was not packaged well at all. No spacers at the chainstays or fork and barely any padding around the frame. Nothing like frames I've purchased in the past. Paint is ok. It also came with a cheap headset and axles.
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I should add that it was not packaged well at all. No spacers at the chainstays or fork and barely any padding around the frame. Nothing like frames I've purchased in the past. Paint is ok. It also came with a cheap headset and axles.


I agree packaging could be better. Basically the sides of the box was pressed up against the bb which isn’t ideal. Great color though on your frame! Digging the matte gray.
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SteeleWheels

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I agree packaging could be better. Basically the sides of the box was pressed up against the bb which isn’t ideal. Great color though on your frame! Digging the matte gray.


The color is actually supposed to be metallic silver but glad you like it. I think it will look nice once built.
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No frills, no production unboxing video: 
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Thanks for the thorough review. There definitely seem to be some short cuts on that frame. Those bosses do not look good. Should have been reinforced internally. The BB solution is just silly and definitely a "cheap Chinese" solution by people who have no idea about the actual usage.

I always do an "endoscopy" of my frames. I have attached an image of the internal bosses of the Carbonda. They look very good and you can see how they have properly reinforced them internally.

I would hesitate with calling manufacturing flaws for cheap Chinese. I have seen expensive Specialized bikes crack at the BB after 2 months. Cannondale are renowned for terrible tolerances with their BB30 and the list goes on. Stuff like this happen. The major difference is the return policy/method/legislation.
But I will agree that the fitting issues you are mentioning would/should be handled by a brand. Also the seat clamp and fender mount bridge issues on the Carbonda should/would be handled by a brand.


Hi @ashOfIce!
I see that probably you might have an opinion to add to my problem and concerns. I also do have a carbonda cfr505 in the building. I have dynamo front hub with which I'll power a Sinewave Beacon front light. The problem is when it comes to mounting the light. I really would like to mount the light on the fork crown area (and not on the handlebar area as there I'll have handlebar bag. There is no threaded hole on the front of the fork crown, only on the rear.

Do you think it's ok to drill the crown and install a riv nut? I did such thing on my monocoque handlebar-stem on my road bike under the stem to be able to attach a Garmin holder and it worked out well.

I also would like to have Salsa Anything cages on the sides of the fork. They mount with 3 bolts. There is already 1 bolt on each side of the fork (the fender mounts). Should I add 1 or 2 riv nuts on both sides of the fork or should I clamp it with SKS anywhere mounts for example?

Also would be ok to guide the 2mm thick cable from the front hub to the light in the right fork leg? By drilling 2mm holes on the bottom and on the top of the fork leg.

I might add on this issue that I've spoked about this with Adam but he really didn't understand why and where I would like these holes so I've only ordered the frame with the extra top and down tube bottle mounts. But he said he can put rivets mostly anywhere on the frame.

Is this too much of a destruction to the fork? Should I apply epoxy after drilling the holes or should I forget about this whole thing?

Also another topic: I didn't ordered the through axles as I wanted to go with higher quality ultralight axles that I want to order from Extralite. I just found out that the rear dropout hasn't got the fillet integrated but it has a round hole for a nut. Can anybody help me out what kind of nut do I have to get to fit in there?

Thanks in advance!
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Is that etap 1x? Do you have details on the conversion? Do you just refrain from tapping both at the same time/FD shift or somehow got out of having to pair the FD?


Yes, it is etap HRD mounted with a SRAM CX1 11-36 Cassette PG-1170 and SRAM PC-1170 Chain.
I had already the WiFli spare derailleur when going in the mountains with my road bike. Its capacity is 28.

The shifters work this way: Left gets easier. Right gets harder.
When pressing both at the same time nothing happens.

There is a shifter widget on my Elmnt Bolt, that understands and only show the rear derailleur position.
On my road bike it shows both dérailleurs positions.
I bet SRAM will come with an etap 1x derailleur soon [cool], the electronic seems ready.

I was just worried the chain would jump when it gets rough, and would need a chain guide/tensioner of some kind.
But no, everything seems to stay in place.

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Yes, it is etap HRD mounted with a SRAM CX1 11-36 Cassette PG-1170 and SRAM PC-1170 Chain.
I had already the WiFli spare derailleur when going in the mountains with my road bike. Its capacity is 28.

The shifters work this way: Left gets easier. Right gets harder.
When pressing both at the same time nothing happens.

There is a shifter widget on my Elmnt Bolt, that understands and only show the rear derailleur position.
On my road bike it shows both dérailleurs positions.
I bet SRAM will come with an etap 1x derailleur soon [cool], the electronic seems ready.

I was just worried the chain would jump when it gets rough, and would need a chain guide/tensioner of some kind.
But no, everything seems to stay in place.



Thank you for the info. My etap race bike works great except I feel it’s a bit slow compared to my DA shifting, and feels a bit clunky and not as smooth as even my 105 groupset, especially when dumping gears or double shifting F/R at the same time. Good to know though that the makeshift 1x etap hasn’t jumped off the gears, and yes I’m thinking Sram will be coming out with a clutched etap at some point!
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I should add that it was not packaged well at all. No spacers at the chainstays or fork and barely any padding around the frame. Nothing like frames I've purchased in the past. Paint is ok. It also came with a cheap headset and axles.


Funny how that all ties into the the expectations thing. I think my frame was packed in a similar manner, maybe slightly better, and I described it as adequate.
But to give you an idea on what can happen, my buddy just purchased an epic s-works frame module ($5K), and the box came in opened...

Speaking of the axles and the nut... Does the nut fit tightly into the dropout or is like mine where it floats in there like a hot dog in a hallway?


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Thank you for the info. My etap race bike works great except I feel it’s a bit slow compared to my DA shifting, and feels a bit clunky and not as smooth as even my 105 groupset, especially when dumping gears or double shifting F/R at the same time. Good to know though that the makeshift 1x etap hasn’t jumped off the gears, and yes I’m thinking Sram will be coming out with a clutched etap at some point!


For me the wireless idea is great, etap shifts greats and smooth.

No problem dumping gears.
Double shifting is more first front, then stay with the finger on the appropriate shifter to get a rear shift and work as I expect.


How happy I am to not knowing DA [smile]
You don't miss something you don't know.
I'll make sure I never try a DA then !

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SteeleWheels

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Funny how that all ties into the the expectations thing. I think my frame was packed in a similar manner, maybe slightly better, and I described it as adequate.
But to give you an idea on what can happen, my buddy just purchased an epic s-works frame module ($5K), and the box came in opened...

Speaking of the axles and the nut... Does the nut fit tightly into the dropout or is like mine where it floats in there like a hot dog in a hallway?




The axles are in my wheels. I have not mounted them to the frame yet so I hope there aren't any issues such as that. Your frame isn't a Carbonda though.
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Hi @ashOfIce! I see that probably you might have an opinion to add to my problem and concerns. I also do have a carbonda cfr505 in the building. I have dynamo front hub with which I'll power a Sinewave Beacon front light. The problem is when it comes to mounting the light. I really would like to mount the light on the fork crown area (and not on the handlebar area as there I'll have handlebar bag. There is no threaded hole on the front of the fork crown, only on the rear. Do you think it's ok to drill the crown and install a riv nut? I did such thing on my monocoque handlebar-stem on my road bike under the stem to be able to attach a Garmin holder and it worked out well. I also would like to have Salsa Anything cages on the sides of the fork. They mount with 3 bolts. There is already 1 bolt on each side of the fork (the fender mounts). Should I add 1 or 2 riv nuts on both sides of the fork or should I clamp it with SKS anywhere mounts for example? Also would be ok to guide the 2mm thick cable from the front hub to the light in the right fork leg? By drilling 2mm holes on the bottom and on the top of the fork leg. I might add on this issue that I've spoked about this with Adam but he really didn't understand why and where I would like these holes so I've only ordered the frame with the extra top and down tube bottle mounts. But he said he can put rivets mostly anywhere on the frame. Is this too much of a destruction to the fork? Should I apply epoxy after drilling the holes or should I forget about this whole thing? Also another topic: I didn't ordered the through axles as I wanted to go with higher quality ultralight axles that I want to order from Extralite. I just found out that the rear dropout hasn't got the fillet integrated but it has a round hole for a nut. Can anybody help me out what kind of nut do I have to get to fit in there? Thanks in advance!


Hi Bagly

Adam is a good salesman and I have yet to hear a Chinese salesman say no [wink]
Anyways, I wouldn't recommend drilling all those holes. The issue is that a lot of the strength of carbon fiber is in the continuous fibers. So if you drill you break that continuity and weaken the structural properties. 
The factory rivets (main bottle mounts) are reinforced from the inside to avoid further delamination (I haven't checked the cable entries yet). Since this is not possible for us this would weaken the structure and result in a potential point of failure. A delamination initiator. 
I know Carbonda happily adds extra bottle mount after manufacturing, but from a strictly structural point of view this does decrease the structural integrity of the frame.
When this is said, I am no pro. Just have an interest in the subject.
You might drill those holes and everything will be great, or you might drill those holes and cracks will start to appear further down the road.
You can also turn it around and say, rather be happy with the bike as long as it lasts than be unhappy with it for longer.

The rear thru axle is an e-type thru axle. That is the type you should be looking for. They will come with the nut.
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The axles are in my wheels. I have not mounted them to the frame yet so I hope there aren't any issues such as that. Your frame isn't a Carbonda though.


yeah I know it isn't, but I was just curious as it looks the Carbonda has a similar dropout. It's hard to tell though, as I haven't seen a close up of it.
I was wondering if they sent me the wrong nut or if it's just the way it is
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Carbonda is closed until March 2 and is supposed to be sending me another frame then.


Hi there!
Are there more people who can confirm this?

Yesterday I received my Carbonda frame and rims. The frame looks really good and the custom color is spot on! Only thing is that they send me the 18K fibre weave rims instead of the ordered UD matte [frown]

I'll hope they are willing to send me the UD matte rims but if there is a long Chinese holliday I'll probably won't be riding my new bike before April... [bawl]

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Hi there!
Are there more people who can confirm this?

Yesterday I received my Carbonda frame and rims. The frame looks really good and the custom color is spot on! Only thing is that they send me the 18K fibre weave rims instead of the ordered UD matte [frown]

I'll hope they are willing to send me the UD matte rims but if there is a long Chinese holliday I'll probably won't be riding my new bike before April... [bawl]



China has their new year holiday till about the end of the month. A lot of places are shut down.
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yeah I know it isn't, but I was just curious as it looks the Carbonda has a similar dropout. It's hard to tell though, as I haven't seen a close up of it.
I was wondering if they sent me the wrong nut or if it's just the way it is


I haven't had any issues with that bolt on the Carbonda. 😉

EDIT: Why does a normal smiley become a winky-smiley!?
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SteeleWheels

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Hi there!
Are there more people who can confirm this?

Yesterday I received my Carbonda frame and rims. The frame looks really good and the custom color is spot on! Only thing is that they send me the 18K fibre weave rims instead of the ordered UD matte [frown]

I'll hope they are willing to send me the UD matte rims but if there is a long Chinese holliday I'll probably won't be riding my new bike before April... [bawl]



Did you ask carbonda? Hedy is the one that told me the factories are closed until then. Just ask her.
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May be someone use postmount mechanical brakes with adapters on our frame? I have troubles
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