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massitesi

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Well i painted the frame by myself with a Wrapping paint.
Changed the headset with a better one but used the kit seatpost clamp and saddle rail.
Shimano 105 hydraluic lever and Flat mount brakes, with 160 disk rotor , salsa cowbell 3 handlebar and fsa stem .
Fsa adventure crankset 48-32 working with shimano 105 front derailleur and shimano deore xt long cage rear , need a jtek shiftmate 8a gear to make them work togheter with a 11-42 sunrace cassette , still working a little on it ,,,,, maybe i ll switch to a 105 rear derailleur with a 11-36 cassette and use the others parts in my next mtb .
I have yiushun offset gravel rims, with Chosen straight pull hubs, tubless ready , mounting shwalbe g one (38) tubless tyres , is not raining much here until november and this tyres should be ok !
Tomorrow i ll do the first off road ride and Will let you know!!!!
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Well i painted the frame by myself with a Wrapping paint.


Wrapping paint? tell me more about this.
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TurtleBike

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Ordered a CFR505 with custom paint and additional bosses on the top tube and bottom tube. Planning on building it up with Ultegra 6800 and 650b wheels.

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massitesi

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@owly
plastidip or wrapper paint are removable paint.they act like a normal paint but you can remove the layer whenever you want to.
i did it because in my country is a lot of taxes on finished items!!!
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massitesi

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I've had mine built up for a few weeks now. Built up with SRAM Red 22, 34/50 up front and 11-32 in the back with Roadlink. TRP Spyre with 140mm discs. Wheels are Mason x Hunt 4season Disc with the Carbonda supplied axles. Rubber is currently G-One 38mm tubeless and the pictured cheapo plastic fenders are 50mm wide - hardly enough clearance there but then the fenders will really only be on for foul weather brevets and commuting, on 28-32mm tyres. Been busy with other stuff recently so I've only done a couple of rides for around 200km total. First impression is that the frame feels really nice, both comfortable and responsive at the same time. Cockpit setup is a bit upright for now and I do like my Thomsons and Brooks saddle which to me make any frame comfortable, but I will be experimenting with other saddles and seatposts on this one. Only 2 small issues I've encountered with the frame so far are: 1) needed to sand quite a bit of excess paint from the rear brake mount to get the caliper to line up correctly - I guess on steel frames facing flat mounts is recommended practice anyways but not sure about carbon frames? 2) nearly thrashed one of the seatstay fender mount rivets already when tightening a bolt a bit carelessly - watch out for this as the supplied bolts are on the long side. I'll post more once I've had a chance to ride it some more and take better pics. But at this point I like it and would recommend/buy again myself.



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massitesi

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about  russe number 2, my left rivet came off while screwing it back after painting,that's a pity , i've already sent pic to adam, you should maybe write to him about it,,,,,,,more complaints are welcome if they will care !!!

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Well i painted the frame by myself with a Wrapping paint.
Changed the headset with a better one but used the kit seatpost clamp and saddle rail.
Shimano 105 hydraluic lever and Flat mount brakes, with 160 disk rotor , salsa cowbell 3 handlebar and fsa stem .
Fsa adventure crankset 48-32 working with shimano 105 front derailleur and shimano deore xt long cage rear , need a jtek shiftmate 8a gear to make them work togheter with a 11-42 sunrace cassette , still working a little on it ,,,,, maybe i ll switch to a 105 rear derailleur with a 11-36 cassette and use the others parts in my next mtb .
I have yiushun offset gravel rims, with Chosen straight pull hubs, tubless ready , mounting shwalbe g one (38) tubless tyres , is not raining much here until november and this tyres should be ok !
Tomorrow i ll do the first off road ride and Will let you know!!!!


Sounds like a nice build.
I am going to try the combination ultegra 6800 50-34 and rebuild the rd to long cage for the 11-36 cassette.
Will pick the cage off my old 10s XT rd.
My friend Internet says that's gonna work.
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massitesi

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Tried today on a short ride but on all surfaces and gradients, very fast on flat gravel , climbs very well, responsive and stiff on rocks and mtb trail also , With wide handlebar rides almost like a mtb , funny and comfty!!!
I m happy with it !!!
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kowalski

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Finally got my Carbonda built up. Only put 10 miles on it so far, but I'm pretty impressed with it.  Still need to get a bigger cassette (probably 11-32)
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Looking at all these great build ups, I assume that nobody else had the issue with the lower fork steerer that I had. That's great!

FYI, Carbonda is using all your finish build photos for marketing on Alibaba. Just so you are aware of that [wink]
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ashOfIce

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Ordered a CFR505 with custom paint and additional bosses on the top tube and bottom tube. Planning on building it up with Ultegra 6800 and 650b wheels.


Nice colors! With the added bosses and paint, did they have the 2 months production time they've stated previously?
I'm just thinking if they are riveting an existing frame or actually producing a new frame with proper reinforcement on the inside of the rivets etc.
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ventti

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I'm just thinking if they are riveting an existing frame or actually producing a new frame with proper reinforcement on the inside of the rivets etc.


I would have to guess no. At least it seems to me the rivet points aren't reinforced but they're just added onto finished frame moulds before paint. Haven't had a proper look inside though so I may be wrong... As I noted before I nearly forced one rivet out by screwing on one bolt that was holding the extra seatstay bridge. Without the actual bridge on there the bolt was long enough to bottom out in the rivet before I noticed what I was doing. I would definitely not trust any of these mounting points to carry a lot of weight. So while they are fine for mounting fenders and bottle cages, I'm probably not going to mount anything like racks on mine.
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I would have to guess no. At least it seems to me the rivet points aren't reinforced but they're just added onto finished frame moulds before paint. Haven't had a proper look inside though so I may be wrong... As I noted before I nearly forced one rivet out by screwing on one bolt that was holding the extra seatstay bridge. Without the actual bridge on there the bolt was long enough to bottom out in the rivet before I noticed what I was doing. I would definitely not trust any of these mounting points to carry a lot of weight. So while they are fine for mounting fenders and bottle cages, I'm probably not going to mount anything like racks on mine.


Yes, I also noticed the screw length vs rivet depth at the rack/fender bridge mount. I would have ordered without that mount/rivets if I were to order again.

Anyways, I actually did an "endoscopy" of the frame and they have reinforced all the bottle mount rivets internally. It's actually a pretty well made frame. Relatively wrinkle free and clean on the inside. You can see that they use EPS mould tech instead of the usual PU-bladder tech.
Due to obvious reasons I couldn't see the seatstays from the inside.

So, if they have 2 months wait on these configurations, I actually think they are producing a new frame to those specs and reinforcing internally where the new rivets are placed.
If it's only a couple of weeks they are most likely just painting and riveting an existing frame and that could have some serious long term issues. Riveting "random" places that are not reinforced for the purpose is not an ideal solution [wink]
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TurtleBike

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Nice colors! With the added bosses and paint, did they have the 2 months production time they've stated previously?
I'm just thinking if they are riveting an existing frame or actually producing a new frame with proper reinforcement on the inside of the rivets etc.


He didn't mention a time frame. I'm not in a rush to get it built up, but hopefully its quicker than 2 months. I also requested the seat stay mounts removed which he said would not be a problem
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ashOfIce

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Has anyone had issues with slipping seat post?
I just had my first ride, and it was slipping quite a lot. I have put carbon paste in the seat tube /post but it seems like I really have to tighten the seat post clamp a lot to make it stay. Maybe the custom seat clamp is not that great. 
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Has anyone had issues with slipping seat post?
I just had my first ride, and it was slipping quite a lot. I have put carbon paste in the seat tube /post but it seems like I really have to tighten the seat post clamp a lot to make it stay. Maybe the custom seat clamp is not that great. 


It could also be an undersized seatpost or an oversized seat tube.  My Planet X London Road was designed for 31.6 seatpost but the seat tube is actually about 31.7mm which gives issues with some seatposts.  
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It could also be an undersized seatpost or an oversized seat tube.  My Planet X London Road was designed for 31.6 seatpost but the seat tube is actually about 31.7mm which gives issues with some seatposts.  


Yes, absolutely. Going to measure it today. It is a quite loose fit.
Has anyone else experienced that the measurements on the CFR505 is a bit off?
First my fork crown was way too big to fit IS52 crown race and bearing (had to sand it quite a bit) and now maybe a mismatch in seat post / tube sizing...

Anyways, had my first ride yesterday and I can say that this is the most fun ride I have ever owned. "Laterally stiff, vertically compliant..." always hated that marketing phrase. But on this frame I could't help but thinking exactly that when riding it.
Rode on some pretty bad tarmac and gravel and with 35mm Conti Cross Speed tires (which by the way are awesome "all road" tires) it pretty much leveled it out and just made me wanna get out of the saddle and gogogogogo [wink]
The only thing I could point my finger at, is that it might be a little too relaxed geometry, but I guess that was more a matter of getting used to it. This made me ride more in the drops, which I rarely did on my previous bike.
In general, I really like the construction and (ride)quality of this bike.
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I've only got a few rides on my Carbonda, but I'm also experiencing the slipping seatpost with the Carbonda carbon post. I'm going to try adding some carbon paste to see if that will remedy the problem. 
Rode it yesterday with 650b XT wheels wrapped with WTB Byways and it felt great (besides the seatpost issue).

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I've only got a few rides on my Carbonda, but I'm also experiencing the slipping seatpost with the Carbonda carbon post. I'm going to try adding some carbon paste to see if that will remedy the problem. 
Rode it yesterday with 650b XT wheels wrapped with WTB Byways and it felt great (besides the seatpost issue).



Measured the seat post yesterday and it measured 27.02mm not 27.2mm. So I think they need to adjust whatever mould they are using for it...

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TurtleBike

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What's been everyone's experience with shipping estimates? I ordered on the 4th, emailed on the 17th and was told it would he ready on the 22nd. Sent an email on the 23rd checking and was told it would ship this week. I've not received a tracking number yet so I'll email again next week. Has anyone else had a similar experience?
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So i'm looking into these chinese gravel frames, you have the frame that is sold by workswell WCB-R-125) and by velobuildmall, you have the frame CFR505 sold by Carbonda with the option to add some mounts in places where you like them.

Now i found out on the workswell page that they also sell this frame, the WCB-R-146, it has all the mounting options i would like to have, and by the looks the rack mounts aren't added tot the frame with rivets which would be nice with a rack. It also has more clearance for 27,5" tyres because of the same bottom bracket/chainstay design as the wcb-r-125).
And it has a 'normal' seatpost which is something i like in case of a broken seatpost. And you can choose you're prefered bottombracket (BSA/PF30/BB86)

Anybody has more experience with this frame? What do you think about this frame by looking at the photos and specs?

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What do you think about this frame by looking at the photos and specs?



Looks a bit like the U.P. frame.

How about you get one. You could start a new thread on the build [smile]
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I contacted Carbonda just to see what the prices and etc are currently - I certainly don't need a frame! I think after this Diverge I really need to get myself something titanium!

 unit price is USD490, including : frame, fork , seatpost, clamp
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TurtleBike

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I received the tracking number for my frame last night. Hopefully it gets here soon

I paid $718 shipped to the US - Custom paint, added bosses, frame, fork , headset, seatpost, clamp and axles
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That looks nice.  It has all the mounting points.  It looks like the drive side chain stay drop isn't quite as pronounced as the O.P.E.N. but seems like it has a lot of clearance.  I ride a 52.5 or 53.0 top tube usually and fall right in between sizes.  Also, I'm not sure of the handling on the smaller sizes as the head tube angle gets pretty slack.  Finally, check on the BB height - it's a little high compared to most current trends but would guess it's ok.  Maybe it's that way for the 650b wheels.
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