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illskittlz

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My Mistake, the frame size is actually 48, not 47. My Trek Emonda is 47 and my Cervelo S5 is 48. 

Available Sizes:48/51/54/57/60cm

http://www.carbonda.com/road/gravel/cfr505.html

Also, I think there is definitely more fork and chainstay space and it can fit more than the 47mm that they mentioned with the WTB Horizons. 

I'll definitely keep you guys updated when I get these build complete. Probably in a week or less. 
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elorablue

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How did you pick the colour? I've been emailing Adam, asked about colour choice, he sent me a pic of 2 BillFish frames (I assume this is their own brand) in red and black.

https://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/BILLFISH-700c-40MM-650B-47MM-Carbon-Gravel-Bike-Frame-set-Size-54cm-BB86-Carbon-cyclocross-road/32718935774.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000017.2.FiEhmt
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Hey everyone, just wanted to say that I love my carbonda (the original celeste blue bike). I haven't had a chance to get offroad much due to massive amounts of rain in Cali, but on the road it's excellent - lightweight, responsive, stiff, but comfortable. I have changed the headset because the one from Carbonda fell apart, but otherwise no issues. I would consider changing the rims to ones with a tubeless bump so I can go tubeless without a compressor. 

I sent Adam my color request and this link - http://colors.findthedata.com/l/20/Celeste
Turned out perfect!
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wrecks

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Oh, and the weights illskittlz posted were similar to mine. I'll see if I can find the exact numbers with pictures tonight.
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elorablue

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Thanks wrecks for the colour chart link. 
Glad you're liking the frame.  No issues with seat post / tube sizing?
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illskittlz

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Does anyone have this frame? http://www.ebay.com/itm/700C-Carbon-Gravel-Bike-Frame-12-142-Disc-Brake-Flat-Mount-for-700C-40C-/152424772780?hash=item237d3974ac:g[redface]JsAAOSwo4pYM-Di

Geometry looks almost identical to the Open Up. This frame can take a wider tire,  up to 2.1 inch versus the Carbonda which takes 1.85 (47mm). I would have considered this frame, but their smallest size would still be big for me. 
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Quote:
Originally Posted by illskittlz
Does anyone have this frame? http://www.ebay.com/itm/700C-Carbon-Gravel-Bike-Frame-12-142-Disc-Brake-Flat-Mount-for-700C-40C-/152424772780?hash=item237d3974ac:g[redface]JsAAOSwo4pYM-Di

Geometry looks almost identical to the Open Up. This frame can take a wider tire,  up to 2.1 inch versus the Carbonda which takes 1.85 (47mm). I would have considered this frame, but their smallest size would still be big for me. 


I'd be interested in more information too.  And, yes, almost identical geometry to the Open U.P.  I found another on eBay asking $1,050.  The above seller has 0 feedback as of now.  I wonder what offer would be accepted.  The only negative re geometry for me on the 50cm is the headtube angle of 69.5.

I've been looking for another frame for a bunch of parts I have after converting my Ridley to Di2 and upgrading some of the other components to carbon.  I also have some extra wheelsets too so have almost all the parts needed for a new build except a frameset.  So I've been looking for an inexpensive thru axle frame.  I was thinking steel - like the Twin 6 - but most are QR.  So either of these two bikes look like an option.
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Quote:
Originally Posted by illskittlz
Does anyone have this frame? http://www.ebay.com/itm/700C-Carbon-Gravel-Bike-Frame-12-142-Disc-Brake-Flat-Mount-for-700C-40C-/152424772780?hash=item237d3974ac:g[redface]JsAAOSwo4pYM-Di

Geometry looks almost identical to the Open Up. This frame can take a wider tire,  up to 2.1 inch versus the Carbonda which takes 1.85 (47mm). I would have considered this frame, but their smallest size would still be big for me. 
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massitesi

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yes same size of open up, but looks like 3t exploro also ( both bikes has the same engineer)
i m going to buy a carbonda gravel , my road bike size is 48 and maybe the small size of the open up is too big for me also , can you tell me your height so i can have one more paramether , i m 162 cm tall , 76 horse
thanks
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illskittlz

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I am 5'3". wasn't sure if that was directed towards me. But hope that helps. 

Go with the Carbonda. It is a really nice frame. I'm glad  I did. It's being worked on currently still so I hope to have an  update for you guys when complete. 
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massitesi

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yes , sorry , it was for you !
thanks for your advice , let us know how it rides when ready !!
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DrSpoke

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Originally Posted by illskittlz


Contact Adam at adam@carbonda.com

He's been pretty responsive to me. The price I got for this frame is $647 shipped.


I sent an email to Adam yesterday evening.  He was very responsive and gave me a quote similar to this one.  I also have a similar quote from Workswell on the WCB-R-125.

I wish I could meld the two as there are aspects of each I prefer.  The Workswell has the same geometry as the Open U.P. - a bike I like a lot.  I like it's ability to run large 650b tires but am concerned about the head tube angle, 69.5, on the size S which seems to have a lot of trail.  The Carbonda has, I think, slightly better geometry for me though both the top tube and head tube are a bit long for me as well as maximum tire size a bit smaller.  Never easy.  But I think I'll end up with one or the other.  I have almost all the other parts necessary to build it up including Shimano hydro/mechanical levers and derailleurs, wheels and cockpit.  I will need a pair of calipers and will likely look for and use an XT/XTR RD w/Tanpan.
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Billfish-RedBlack.jpg 
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I seem to be having trouble submitting my text along with the picture I have posted above. I have ordered my frame last week in size M. Adam has been very responsive throughout the ordering process and accomodating of my wishes (e.g. extra bottle cage mount on the outside of the downtube). You see the colour scheme I have chosen (withouth the labels). I went with the BB86 bottom bracket as an alternative would have meant a few more weeks waiting time. I will have to lend press somewhere. I hope it will turn out all right. I shall let you know.
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I like the paint job.  I'm ordering mine unpainted as I plan to plastidip some areas white.  How much did they charge for the extra bottle mounts?  I want BSA threaded BB, how long did he say it would take to change the BB ?
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Does anyone have this frame? http://www.ebay.com/itm/700C-Carbon-Gravel-Bike-Frame-12-142-Disc-Brake-Flat-Mount-for-700C-40C-/152424772780?hash=item237d3974ac:g[redface]JsAAOSwo4pYM-Di


This sure looks like the On-one Space Chicken.  
http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/bikes/gravel-adventure-bikes/space-chicken
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platypus

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20$ for the extra bottle mount. 70 or 75$ the paint job (I would have to look it up again to be exact).
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Originally Posted by thebionicman
Does anyone have this frame? http://www.ebay.com/itm/700C-Carbon-Gravel-Bike-Frame-12-142-Disc-Brake-Flat-Mount-for-700C-40C-/152424772780?hash=item237d3974ac:g[redface]JsAAOSwo4pYM-Di


This sure looks like the On-one Space Chicken.  
http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/bikes/gravel-adventure-bikes/space-chicken


Both are similar to the Open U.P. with the eBay bike a virtual copy.  You can find a much better price on the eBay bike by going direct to Workswell - the WCB=R-125.  Chris (Christina) has been very helpful to me so far.
http://www.workswellbikes.com/web/view/237.html
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I like the paint job.  I'm ordering mine unpainted as I plan to plastidip some areas white.  How much did they charge for the extra bottle mounts?  I want BSA threaded BB, how long did he say it would take to change the BB ?


I like the paint too.

Is this the Carbonda CFR505?
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Does anyone know if the Carbonda has clearance for a Ultegra 6800 50/34 crankset?

Can anyone recommend the correct Carbonda frame for a 6-1 guy.

(fwiw...I don't think the workswell frame that has infiltrated this carbonda thread has clearance for the compact...but I could be wrong...maybe someone knows if the chain will rub?)
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Originally Posted by thebionicman
Does anyone have this frame? http://www.ebay.com/itm/700C-Carbon-Gravel-Bike-Frame-12-142-Disc-Brake-Flat-Mount-for-700C-40C-/152424772780?hash=item237d3974ac:g[redface]JsAAOSwo4pYM-Di


This sure looks like the On-one Space Chicken.  
http://www.on-one.co.uk/c/q/bikes/gravel-adventure-bikes/space-chicken


the On-One can only clear a 47 like the Carbonda, and it can only run 1x as there is no derailleur mount in the front.
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platypus

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Good morning Elorablue. Adam said that it would take 2 month for a BSA bracket. With the BB86 as advertised 3 weeks.
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platypus

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Good morning Dr. Spoke (senior member). Yes, it it s the CFR505 from Carbonda. (you can still lightly see the billfish labels which I shall not have on the frame)
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elorablue

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Something's fishy".....
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massitesi

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to the ones looking on ebay : you d better contact the seller via alibaba.com and save money. Carbonda gravel is an original design made by the company , the other one , that has got same sizing of open up, is produced by three different companies ( like chinese usually do ),and is explicitly a copy of open up, as declared by a seller from Anglesport ( one of the producer mentioned above ).another company is workswell, i don t remember the name of the third one , but i will post picture of it if i will find it again.
price on alibaba.com are different , maybe because of the lower commision.below is how they asked me at Anglesport.

The price for the frameset is USD488, USD80 for shipping cost and USD25 for paypal charges. So the total is USD593.

I think that billfish is just another name for carbonda , sometimes they use different name on a different trading site.

Adam at carbonda is very professional .

also : the seat tube of the open up like is not very common .

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