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DerekJ_MI

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I'm looking for a tray type, 2 bike rack for a 2" hitch receiver.  Thinking about the Kaut NV 2.0 with the bike work stand.  But they are not inexpensive.  What others are out there that make sense?
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I love my 1UP and have yet to meet someone who has one that would not recommend it. Simple, easy to use and robust.

https://www.1up-usa.com/
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1+ for 1up. Fastest rack to use and no contact with your bike
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DerfeJ_MI I saw one of the 1UP racks at the Funks Bottom last weekend. I am in the market for one also and must say it was pretty sweet looking. Probably buying one at my end but I have to get the hitch on my new car first.


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I'm looking for a tray type, 2 bike rack for a 2" hitch receiver.  Thinking about the Kaut NV 2.0 with the bike work stand.  But they are not inexpensive.  What others are out there that make sense?


There's lot of good ones and they will all cost you some money. Kuats are rock solid and look nice. Saris is great. Thules are great. 1up is great and the original creator of that has a new model that looks incredible - it's called Quik Rack Mach 2. Rocky Mounts are great. Yakima is great. There's lot of great options and they are all priced accordingly.

My new (to me) car has a 2" receiver so I bought the recently updated Dr. Tray. Fat bike compatibility, the longer cable lock and how easy it is to raise and lower to get the hatch open were things I liked. The main reason I bought that instead of another is because they give IMBA members 40% off. My 1 1/4" Yakima Hold Up still looks and works great after year-round midwestern use with zero maintenance, so another Yakima at a discounted price made sense to me. If I was paying retail, I don't think I would have chosen it because the end price for the 3 bike setup is absolutely ridiculous.
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Few things impress me as much as the design of a one up rear rack and I’m a nitpicky engineer who is always optimizing things. Don’t spend your hard earned cash on anything less.
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I recently bought a Thule rear hitch type for my Outback and have been very happy with it..No more roof racks for me if I can help it. I'm 5-08 and needed to buy a RV step to put bikes on roof. Big pain in the butt!
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In my quite a bike area friends only let friends buy Saris or 1Up.

Saris has great stuff at moderate prices, great customer service and the family that runs it gives a lot back.

The more my big circle of 1Up associates has grown, the more the racks have aged, the times when individual parts have been available, how steel rusts if you use the stuff year round, the ease of making a rack a 1 or 4 or whatever config, the more I say just buy one.
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1+ for 1up... I have the 2" 2 bike version. It really takes about 10 sec to load and unload bikes. No fussing if you move different bike for time to time; just slide bikes appart few inches so seat/handles bars won't contact. I can load any combination of my children small and XS 27,5" hardtail, my 700c/38c gravel bike, 29" full-suspension or my 26"/4.8 fat bike without any adjustment/modification...

All parts are available on their website if you need replacement (mine is still in perfect condition after 3 years)
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does anyone here know what the drama is between 'quick rack' and '1up'?

also, why is the 1up rack generally so much more expensive than the quick rack, considering the inventor of the 1up rack is now producing 'quick rack'?


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does anyone here know what the drama is between 'quick rack' and '1up'?

also, why is the 1up rack generally so much more expensive than the quick rack, considering the inventor of the 1up rack is now producing 'quick rack'?




If you visit MTBR you'll see plenty bandwidth and disk space have been wasted on the drama you mentioned.

My guess is lower price comes from the parts sourcing and attempting to go from 0% market share.
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does anyone here know what the drama is between 'quick rack' and '1up'?

also, why is the 1up rack generally so much more expensive than the quick rack, considering the inventor of the 1up rack is now producing 'quick rack'?


imwjl said most of it. The summary is that the guy responsible for designing the rack 1up sells is no longer with 1up and is making his own rack under the name quik rack. My opinion is that it's smelling like a 'too good to be true' situation, especially with the shipping/availability dates getting pushed back further and further. I also *think* some patent(s) related to the original rack are expired. The designer also lives pretty close to the Saris Headquarters and I had read some forum talk about him partnering with them. (Edit: Completely untrue. A guy from Saris confirmed at a race over the weekend that they are separate projects. Don't believe things you read on forums!) There was also an announcement about a very similar rack coming from Saris. I live pretty close to there as well and have benefited from some of the events and organizations Saris has sponsored. They offer lifetime guarantees on their other racks, so it's definitely something I would have waited to see if I had not needed a rack a couple months ago.

As somebody who travels with bikes a LOT and has everything from a fat bike to TT bike to long mountain bike, I wound up with a Yakima Dr. Tray (+ the add on tray) and really like it. Out of the box fat bike compatibility, the lever to raise and lower the unit works well and it's overall a pretty solid piece. I drove 800 miles a couple weeks ago with the fat bike, mountain bike and my wife's bike on the rack and it was super solid. IMBA and USAC members get a nice discount too. My previous Yakima Hold Up was trouble free for the 5 years I used it, so staying with Yakima made sense to me.

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Ignoring the drama part, the current huge/main difference between the 1up and the quikrack, beyond the referenced upgrades ..... is that the 1up is currently available and quikrack Mach 2 is absolutely not currently available (and hasn't been since it's "announcement")

The 1up rack is really nice, just make sure you chain lock it to hitch to slow down criminals.  The cons of the 1up are easily understood and noted in the Mach 2 video....and imo are not that big of a deal....it's a bike rack that works.  The pro's are numerous.  Try to find a used 1Up, it ain't easy.   That in itself should speak volumes (and is subject to change).

Not ignoring the drama part.....the long and short of it is this imo ... Beginning approximately a year ago Phillips/Mach2 announced the new design and new patent.  It is basically an upgraded 1UP, which he also designed and patented (expired) according to him.  The announcement did not appear to be in unison with the current 1UP retailer, to say the least.  At any rate, within approximately 4 months of said announcement, Phillips/Mach 2 got over 3000 interested prospective buyers contact info by their choice via a website.  The flurry of interest continued, with some additional website drama and speculation, and the contact list morphed into a sequential non-binding Mach 2 waiting list.  At one point, you could check your place in line by contacting Mach 2, guessing still can.

Purely speculating now...obviously many have moved on as approximately zero Mach 2 production units have actually been produced and delivered to regular prospects to date.  Still a valuable list though IMO, particularly with the still ongoing self correcting/place in line pinging and inquiries lol.  I assume he logically levered that interest and the new design patents into a beneficial finance or licensing deal, like he similarly did the first time with the 1up, or is still working at it.  Good for him if so, assuming he or his newer arrangement partners ever actually make the thing and his new patents hold. Good for buyers if it ever actually gets made at the teased price/quality. Guessing Phillips is still collecting on every 1up sold in the mean time, if the alleged legal wrangling didn't blow that deal up. Hopefully both the current 1UP retailer and Phillips are both loving life in the mean time and laughing all the way to the bank. dkdc   Ahhh... the drama and wasted bike rack brain cells lol.  

Today, tariff uncertainty and opportunities created by the same are generally challenging supply lines and input cost planning for many, particularly on new order materials and sources used on these type of items.   

If Saris has it, it won't be inexpensive imo.....and if it is, it won't be as heavy duty/durable/same features and material as the 1up, or the teased Mach 2...IMO.   My opinion is .... those waiting on Phillips indicative initial Mach2 pricing and spec, won't ever see it (in a reasonable time frame).  One man's opinion, hope I am wrong, I like competition in the space, and I like the current 1up and the teased Mach2. 

Again, the 1up is nice...it's a good heavy/solid bike rack, and it's available if you need one.

My bottom line opinion.... it's a bike rack, don't overthink it... 1UP today.
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Does anyone have one of these:

https://hollywoodracks.com/products/sport-rider-se2-2-bike-hitch-rack?variant=15862464070

Saw one this weekend and the owner was raving over it.

Price is very good and you get hitch and bike locks with it.
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I haven't see one, but sounds like you have in person.

Did the clamp clamp on the bike frame or on the tire?

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It's a frame clamper.  It's a preference thing.

IMO, my preference, if your tires aren't too wide to fit the 1up trays, order a 1UP and enjoy it.   https://www.1up-usa.com/   Will leave you to it, don't mean to hijack, ymmv, hope this helps.

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DerekJ_MI

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It clamps on the frame but tension is adjustable.  I was concerned about the clamps rubbing the frame causing damage to the paint but the owner said that he had experienced no ware at all.
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Does anyone have one of these:

https://hollywoodracks.com/products/sport-rider-se2-2-bike-hitch-rack?variant=15862464070

Saw one this weekend and the owner was raving over it.

Price is very good and you get hitch and bike locks with it.


The price is high enough for me to repeat that where I'm usually at friends only let friends buy Saris or 1Up. 
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The price is high enough for me to repeat that where I'm usually at friends only let friends buy Saris or 1Up. 


imwj since I know little or nuthin about these. I know the 1up fastens to the wheel which I like. What are the pros and cons of both of these?

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imwj since I know little or nuthin about these. I know the 1up fastens to the wheel which I like. What are the pros and cons of both of these?

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Zman


1Up has super AL and stainless steel construction and parts are very easy to replace if they are damaged. They are great as far as configuration change - receiver size, tray count, tire type....

Saris makes a lot of products, is known for their efforts in the local economy, known for great customer service. Company head Chris Fortune is a special person who gives back. He's very modest about his success but if you do some homework you'll see he's done great stuff for kids without parents, stuff to get poor kids on bikes, and fund great things.
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Does anyone have one of these:

https://hollywoodracks.com/products/sport-rider-se2-2-bike-hitch-rack?variant=15862464070

Saw one this weekend and the owner was raving over it.

Price is very good and you get hitch and bike locks with it.


I had the cheapest Hollywood 'Commuter' type rack fail ~13 years ago and they were terrible to work with and we never came to any resolution. I will always think of Hollywood as a Walmart bike rack for Walmart bikes. Maybe they are a completely different product and company now? I can't say I see anything around events other than Saris, 1-Up, Kuat, Thule, Yakima and the occasional Rocky Mounts.

If that's your current price range and preference for mounting system, maybe check out a Rocky Mounts Splitrail for only $25 more.

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