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Erik_A

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I just got the "Canyon is Here" email with info that the USA website is live.

My guess is that they will sell a lot of these Canyon Endurace CF SL Disc bikes at $1999 (or aluminum at $1499)

I emailed them at us@canyon.com to ask what is the max tire clearance (front and rear) for both the Canyon Endurace CF SL Disc 7.0 and the Endurace Al Disc 7.0

I know that it comes with 700 x 28c tires, but can it fit 700 x 45c gravel tires? What about max width on 650b rims? Maybe 650b x 52c tires?

https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road/endurance/endurace-cf-sl-disc-7-0

  • FRAME CANYON ENDURACE CF SL DISC
  • FORK CANYON ONE ONE FOUR SLX DISC
  • HEADSET CANYON | ACROS
  • REAR DERAILLEUR SHIMANO 105, 11S
  • FRONT DERAILLEUR SHIMANO 105, 11S
  • BRAKE/SHIFT LEVERS SHIMANO 105 DISC, 11S
  • BRAKES SHIMANO 105 DISC
  • CASSETTE SHIMANO 105, 11S
  • WHEELSET DT SWISS E 1800 SPLINE DB
  • TIRES CONTINENTAL GRAND PRIX SL
  • CRANKS SHIMANO 105, 11S
  • CHAINRINGS 52 | 36
  • CHAIN SHIMANO CN-HG600-11
  • BOTTOM BRACKET SHIMANO PRESSFIT
  • STEM CANYON V13
  • HANDLEBAR CANYON H17 ERGO AL
  • HANDLEBAR TAPE CANYON ERGOSPEED GEL
  • SADDLE SELLE ITALIA X3 CANYON EDITION
  • SEAT POST CANYON S23 VCLS CF (25 MM SETBACK)
  • SEAT CLAMP CANYON INTEGRATED SEAT CLAMP
  • FRAME SIZES 2XS, XS, S, M, L, XL, 2XL
  • COLOR STEALTH | STORMGREEN
  • WEIGHT 8,1 KG (SIZE M)

Are you looking for a way to jumpstart your training program again, and want to integrate a little adventure riding? The Endurace CF SL Disc 7.0 carbon road bike offers a lightweight yet durable solution to all your long distance adventures. If up till now you have been reluctant about being pulled into the marketing hype around endurance, do-everything bikes, you’ll find it heartening that that Endurace CF SL Disc 7.0, with a frame weighing only 960 g in size medium, first and foremost an excellent racing bike. With a sport geometry that slackens off a little on the aggressive you’ll still be able to hunch into a tuck low on the bars and chase down your buddy who sprung a surprise attack on you. The carbon frame of this Endurace CF SL Disc hits that fine balance between stiff responsiveness and soft compliance over rough roads. The bike has been intelligently spec’d with high-quality but well-priced Shimano 105 groupset. You’ll get the performance without the expensive bells and whistles. And then pairing the frame with the DT Swiss E 1800 Disc wheels will ensure a durable resistance to road imperfections while still giving you the snappy rigidity. The Endurace CF SL Disc 7.0 will be the race-ready option to buy for your endurance adventures.

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Erik_A

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Both of those Diamondback Century bikes from 2016 have standard road caliper brakes:

https://www.rei.com/product/876882/diamondback-century-5-carbon-bike-2016

If the Canyon fits 700 x 45c tires on the OEM wheels, they will sell out.


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It's ok but really they're trying to move into a space that's been pretty saturated by Diamondback and Raleigh as well as REI/Performance house brands.

For example, the discounted Diamondback Century 5 carbon is the same price at $1,994.99 with better groupset and the discounted Diamondback Century 4 is $1,574.99 and offers pretty much the same specs. Endurance road, like road bikes before are essentially fungible goods and I'm not convinced the road racing cache Canyon has gained in the past few years is enough to give them significant market share to move large numbers of bikes - especially combined with the current down market. Right now, in the US, bikes at all levels are very good and very cheap and it's going to be hard to do much in the next 6-7 months.

 

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But Canyon is in the TDF. It carries a different quality standard that is (possibly improperly) associated with the brand. That's my two cents.
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Seems like a nice endurance road bike, but short chain stays, short wheel base, steep head tube angle....  I am not attracted to it as a gravel bike, especially not if one plans to toss in some single track, or slight air.  
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I want to say max 33. GCN did a video on cyclocross with it, and that's as much as they could get
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I guess for bigger rubber it would need to be either the $1799 INFLITE CF SLX 8.0 or the $2999 INFLITE AL SLX 8.0 - cx bikes.

https://www.canyon.com/en-us/road/inflite

Inflite AL SLX 8.0 Pro Race - $1799 info:

  • FRAME CANYON INFLITE AL SLX
  • FORK CANYON F21 - ONE ONE FOUR SL DISC
  • HEADSET ACROS THE CLAMP
  • REAR DERAILLEUR SRAM RIVAL 1, 11S
  • DERAILLEUR HANGER NO. 23
  • BRAKE/SHIFT LEVERS SRAM RIVAL 1, 11S
  • BRAKES SRAM RIVAL 1
  • CASSETTE SRAM PG-1130, 11S
  • WHEELSET DT SWISS CR 1600 SPLINE DB
  • TIRES SCHWALBE X-ONE, 33 MM
  • CRANKS QUARQ PRIME, 11S
  • CHAINRINGS 40
  • CHAIN SRAM PC-1110
  • BOTTOM BRACKET SRAM GXP PRESSFIT
  • STEM CANYON V13
  • HANDLEBAR CANYON H17 ERGO AL
  • HANDLEBAR TAPE CANYON ERGOSPEED GEL
  • SADDLE SELLE ITALIA X1
  • SEAT POST CANYON S23 VCLS CF (25 MM SETBACK)
  • SEAT CLAMP CANYON CLAMP SL
  • PEDALS NONE INCLUDED
  • FRAME SIZES XS, S, M, L, XL, 2XL
  • COLOR MIAMI SUNSET
  • WEIGHT 8,8 KG (SIZE M)

For anyone serious about buying a top-line racing cyclocross bike, but doesn’t have the extra funds or personal sponsorships, the Inflite AL SLX 8.0 Pro Race will be a perfect option. Equipped with much of the same high-level components as the CF SLX 8.0 Pro Race, this version of the bike will save you loads with only the most modest weight gain. The AL SLX frame made from a smooth welded alu includes vibration-reducing seat stays that will work to channel your pedal power to the trail. Similarly, the oval chain stays offer greater clearance for the tires while keeping the back-end super stiff. The VCLS technology used for frame and fork ensure that the ride is comfy while keeping the frame effective and responsive. The SRAM Rival groupset will be a reliable companion, and for the crank you’ll even get the power meter-ready X1-compatible Quarq Prime aluminum crank. The touch points are all Canyon in-house parts that are designed to keep the handling sharp and the comfort high with the H17 Ergo AL handlebars, V13 durable stem, and the Canyon S23 CF seatpost. The DT Swiss CR 1600 Spline DB wheelset combined with the 33mm Schwalbe X-One tubeless compatible tires will form a durable, responsive team to keep your momentum over tough sections and grip in a wide range of course conditions. The Inflite AL SLX 8.0 Pro Race will get you through the cross season with ease and within budget.

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Erik_A
I emailed them at us@canyon.com to ask what is the max tire clearance (front and rear) for both the Canyon Endurace CF SL Disc 7.0 and the Endurace Al Disc 7.0

I know that it comes with 700 x 28c tires, but can it fit 700 x 45c gravel tires? What about max width on 650b rims? Maybe 650b x 52c tires?



Let us know what you hear!

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Originally Posted by knl2stl
Seems like a nice endurance road bike, but short chain stays, short wheel base, steep head tube angle....  I am not attracted to it as a gravel bike, especially not if one plans to toss in some single track, or slight air.  


That's exactly what I see.  MY BMC GF-02 is very similar.  Max tire width is 28mm.  They since replaced it with the BMC RM-02, max tire width 30mm.  These are endurance road bikes and not gravel bikes.   I love mine for big miles on paved roads.  It's not meant to go other places though.  

The only 'gravel' type bike is the cross bike and that really is a cross racing bike and not designed for gravel.  I know there is a lot of hype around Canyon coming to the USA but that hype really should be for their very high end racing bikes.  The rest just isn't that interesting or cheap
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Originally Posted by Erik_A

I just got the "Canyon is Here" email with info that the USA website is live.

My guess is that they will sell a lot of these Canyon Endurace CF SL Disc bikes at $1999 (or aluminum at $1499)

I emailed them at us@canyon.com to ask what is the max tire clearance (front and rear) for both the Canyon Endurace CF SL Disc 7.0 and the Endurace Al Disc 7.0

I know that it comes with 700 x 28c tires, but can it fit 700 x 45c gravel tires? What about max width on 650b rims? Maybe 650b x 52c tires?



It's stated in multiple places that you should be able to fit a 33mm. Here's a picture with a true 25mm tire. No way this is ever going to be mistaken for a bike with clearance for 45.

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Erik_A

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Question:

What is the max tire clearance for both the Canyon Endurace and the Inflite series. for 700 vs 650b wheels


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Thank you for your email.

We are very proud of the fact that the Endurace was designed with using larger sized tires in mind. That being said it's max tire clearance is 33mm with a 700c wheel.

We did not design it to be used as a gravel bike and as such did not give it clearance for the bigger tires. We have not tested tire sizing with any 650b wheels but that should afford you some extra clearance.

The Inflite has clearance for up to a 700x38mm tire.

Sadly I do not have clearance measurements on using a 650b sized rim as we have not tested it with these wheels.

All the best,

Ian

Service Center | Canyon Bicycles USA Inc.

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So my question and concern about the Inflite Carbon bike is can it hold up and deliver sustainable comfort over 8+ hours of endurance gravel? Like say a Salsa Warbird

Canyon marketing talks about it as a CX bike and how your able to shoulder it easily etc etc etc.

I'm sure it handles and accelerates well.

I'd like to hear from anybody that owns one and can speak to what it rides like after MANY hours/miles on gravel.



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33 mm Challenge Gravel Grinder is no problem! Baby Limus 33 is also working fine!

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Brought this post back from the dead!
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So my question and concern about the Inflite Carbon bike is can it hold up and deliver sustainable comfort over 8+ hours of endurance gravel? Like say a Salsa Warbird

Canyon marketing talks about it as a CX bike and how your able to shoulder it easily etc etc etc.

I'm sure it handles and accelerates well.

I'd like to hear from anybody that owns one and can speak to what it rides like after MANY hours/miles on gravel.




Yours was the last post here.  No one answered it because no one owned the bike - it was too new.

But yes, it is super comfy in the rear.  shockingly so (I keep checking to see if my tire is going flat).  I used to use a ThudBuster on long rides.  I don't on this bike - it doesn't need it.

Downsides:
Front is stiff and responsive.  It doesn't bother me as I don't put much weight on my hands, and I adjust for the stiffness by dropping my tire pressure about 5psi on long rides.  Also, it does not have much stack, so I am leaned over a bit more than I would ideally on an 8 hour ride.  I find it most comfortable when I am in the drops, but all hand positions are comfortable.  

It works for me, but I'm thinking many of the people here would want more stack for an 8 hour ride than the Inflite has.

But of course now we have the Grail for people looking for a more relaxed version of the Inflite...


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