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sgtrobo

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as the name implies.  Looking for a high speed tire to handle a 200-mile road ride with some gravel thrown in for good measure (mostly hardpack, "mellow" gravel)

Really looking for slicks or semi-slicks, no knobs, for speed on the pavement, as this will be used for the 200-mile Seattle-to-Portland road ride as well

I know of the Compass Bon Jon and Barlow Pass tires, as well as the seemingly nonexistent Gravelking 38c tubeless tire.

Any others?  Or, if you know where in the US you can score some of the 38c Gravelking's, let me know!
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HollyBoni

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Gravelking Slick in the US:

https://www.excelsports.com/main.asp?page=8&description=GravelKing+Tire&vendorCode=PANARACE&major=1&minor=27

I would also recommend the Hutchinson Overide and Schwalbe G-One Speed.


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I have the Gravel King 38mm slick set up tubeless. Works great, weight is 322/323, set up easy. I use them just as you are looking to do. I had a lot of trouble with Bon Jon’s. Go back and look at the thread named Gravel King slicks and you will find the number to order them direct from the US panaracer distributor.
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Looking at the Gravel King, it's hard to believe that the tiny, thin tread pattern would have any significant benefit off-road. A slick of the same size - like a Schwalbe Kojak - would probably work just as well. If you're concerned about your ability to corner on loose dirt/gravel, you may want something with a more aggressive tread, at least on the edges.
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HollyBoni

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Treat these GravelKings as slick tyres. IMO you don't need a more aggressive tread for hardpack gravel and tarmac. 

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Cmtgravel

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Love my Conti Travel Contacts. Slick center, knobby sides, fast on pavement,grippy on gravel, indestructible.
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My $.02 -- this past week, I had my first sidewall failure with my Bon Jon's extra light 35mm tubeless. The recent record breaking cold weather, snow and ice, on Hilton Head Island SC left our normally clean pavement littered with debris. While my BJ's seemed to perform well running through all of this crap, when I got back from my ride, I noticed that my front tire had lost a lot pressure. On close examination, I noticed that about 1/2" square area of the sidewall was abraded, and that a considerable amount of sealant had leaked through. The good news was that the sealant ( Orangeseal Endurance) did its job. After pulling the wheel off, and letting it rest overnight in a horizontal position, the leak was completely sealed. Here is my take away from this experience - wider, more supple tires in general perform better than heavier sturdier tires. But, you do increase the risk of sidewall failure. If I continue with Compass tires, I will switch to the standard casing for more durability. Right now I plan to switch 38 mm Schwalbe G-One's for my gravel wheel set. Based on reviews, and experience with other Schwalbe tires, I'm hoping that these will give me much sturdies sidewalls, without much loss, if any, compared to my BJ's.
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Bob - When are you going to be up my way for a ride?

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chas

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@bobknh - I think the G-one would be a great choice too.  I love those tires.  In the thread below I linked to a mediocre review that was miffed they had two flats on them.  Still, from what I can tell their protection is good for the type of tire they are (i.e. not a stiff sidewall touring tire).  I was impressed that mine held air without sealant.
http://ridinggravel.forumchitchat.com/post/finally-a-mediocre-review-of-the-gone-9484821?pid=1302024431


@sgtrobo - I also like the maxxis rambler as one of the lightest and fastest gravel tires in the 38-40mm range (I have one of each).  about 100gr lighter than a G-one or gravel king.  That is important to me.
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thanks for the updates

Really looking for slicks or semi-slicks, no knobs, for speed on the pavement, as this will be used for the 200-mile Seattle-to-Portland road ride as well, I didn't state that at first, I should've
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HollyBoni

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You won't even notice tiny knobs like what's on the G-One Speed, they won't hurt your speed on pavement at all.
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drwelby

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On the smaller end of the spectrum:

Ritchey WCS Alpine JB 35
WTB Exposure 34

A little bigger:
Maxxis Re-fuse 40
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Conti travel contacts are fast on pavement and available in 37 and 40. Ive run them from 35psi on loose stuff to 70psi on pavement. On pavement and at higher presuures the side knobs dont even factor in. Lower pressures and gravel they grip nicely. They never flat. Im not a racer so not sure on weight, and i run with tubes. Theyre designed as a touring tire.
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chas

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you have some good ideas here.  I like the G-one or G-One speed as they are very fast tires with super low rolling resistance (My 60mm speed has lower rolling resistance than anything Schwalbe makes).  Seems like I read the Maxis re-fuse was not a very supple tire - in contrast to the Maxis rambler which is pretty supple.
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I've run the lighter casing Compass tires (Barlow and Bon Jon Pass), as well as the G-One speed.

They are all excellent tires.  Fast rolling and very comfortable.

The only real down side is that neither of these tires are particularly long wearing.  When you consider price, they are an expensive tire to ride on asphalt, as they will wear quickly.

I think Panaracer makes similar tires (They actually make the Compass tires).   I've not tried them but I know folks who have, and they report that they lack some of the suppleness of the Compass tires, but make up for it in somewhat better flat resistance and general durability.


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  Seems like I read the Maxis re-fuse was not a very supple tire - in contrast to the Maxis rambler which is pretty supple.


It's not that supple but it's not too turdly either. That extra rubber makes it really easy to deal with tubeless however.
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HollyBoni

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Originally Posted by Jim_H


I think Panaracer makes similar tires (They actually make the Compass tires).   I've not tried them but I know folks who have, and they report that they lack some of the suppleness of the Compass tires, but make up for it in somewhat better flat resistance and general durability.




I don't understand how Panaracer did that. The Standard Bon Jon Pass weighs 355g, and the extralight weighs 303g. The 622-40 slick Gravelking weighs 320g. AND costs sooooo much less. [crazy]
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