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tim.bikeparty

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those of us in the industry who carry Trek all got a peek of it this morning through their back-end site.  can't spill too many details now (some of them are already in this thread) but the full release to the public will be 3/1 at 10am CST.  start the countdown!
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those of us in the industry who carry Trek all got a peek of it this morning through their back-end site.  can't spill too many details now (some of them are already in this thread) but the full release to the public will be 3/1 at 10am CST.  start the countdown!


I thought that was supposed to happen today????
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tim.bikeparty

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I thought that was supposed to happen today????


not sure, but the notice i got today shares photos and info so we can plan for marketing but says not to actually reveal anything until the public launch on march 1st
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Is there a price available for the 105?
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Anyone know if the bikes will be spec’d with a subcompact crankset to provide for a lower range of gearing? Thanks
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I saw the photo posted earlier this morning on the forum, and to be honest, was expecting something a little more exciting. Essentially I was expecting a more-advanced iso up front and maybe something more advanced in the rear. The bigger tire clearance was needed/expected but unless I"m missing some details, I didnt see any of the exciting innovations that Trek is known for.... 
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Checked with the LBS and already sold out of my size! Totally disappointed, unless I'm missing something, it's time to look elsewhere at other brands. I've held off since November when they first said that they were going to release the Checkpoint.
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Checked with the LBS and already sold out of my size! Totally disappointed, unless I'm missing something, it's time to look elsewhere at other brands. I've held off since November when they first said that they were going to release the Checkpoint.


Have them specifically check other Trek warehouses. My order showed inventory unavailable until they checked a diff warehouse.
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Plichtaj

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Thanks, I had them check all three warehouses and they're all sold out. ETA is May 14th for more of them. That's for sizes 56 and 58.
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Anyone know if the bikes will be spec’d with a subcompact crankset to provide for a lower range of gearing? Thanks


from what i can see, they will all be spec'd with shimano double road cranks; tiagra to ultegra, so you are probably looking at a 52-36t front rings.
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Is there a price available for the 105?


i'd assume about $2000 for aluminum, $2800 for carbon.  not sure if the carbon frame gets upgraded brakes, wheels, etc as well.
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yeah... currently all the SL5's are gone except for the 49cm and all the sl6's are gone minus the 49cm and 52cm. Also the only Boone 7's currently available are 54cm. Looks like Trek dropped the ball on having bikes available for the start of the gravel race season.
I hear that the Crux and Diverge from Specialized are kinda nice, and available. 
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So already sold out or was never in stock?
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So already sold out or was never in stock?


In essence, employees at Trek Dealers/insiders/friends bought most of the existing bikes before the public ever knew they existed and/or had enough information to determine whether they want order one.  That's precisely what I have been hinting at happening for days.  It's crazy to be taking orders and to be delivering bikes before the public announcement is even made. This will not go over well when the bike is finally announced on 3/1 and then anyone who walks in and tries to buy one is told they are already sold out the very day the bike is announced and the moment the store just opened.  It was so backwards.  Just announce the bike, let some eager beavers put orders in and then talk delivery times with everyone else. Now you are announcing a bike a number of people can't even buy right now, which leads them to feel all that cash burning a whole in their pocket and then ask "what else is out there then?"  So crazy, I've never seen a major bike release done this way....
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Checked with the LBS and already sold out of my size! Totally disappointed, unless I'm missing something, it's time to look elsewhere at other brands. I've held off since November when they first said that they were going to release the Checkpoint.


What were the color choices? Max tire clearance?
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Well crap I was hoping to have a shot at an early one. The Warbird should sold tomorrow. I guess I’ll have time to decide between the SL5 or SL6☹️
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So already sold out or was never in stock?


They were in stock for dealers to order but in very limited quantities. 
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In essence, employees at Trek Dealers/insiders/friends bought most of the existing bikes before the public ever knew they existed and/or had enough information to determine whether they want order one.  That's precisely what I have been hinting at happening for days.  It's crazy to be taking orders and to be delivering bikes before the public announcement is even made. This will not go over well when the bike is finally announced on 3/1 and then anyone who walks in and tries to buy one is told they are already sold out the very day the bike is announced and the moment the store just opened.  It was so backwards.  Just announce the bike, let some eager beavers put orders in and then talk delivery times with everyone else. Now you are announcing a bike a number of people can't even buy right now, which leads them to feel all that cash burning a whole in their pocket and then ask "what else is out there then?"  So crazy, I've never seen a major bike release done this way....


to be more clear, it's not that dealers/insiders/friends bought them up for themselves before the public knew (though there is always some of that), the dealers bought them all up to sell in their stores, to the public.

would you have preferred that the bike be announced to the public the same day it's announced to all the retailers?  how would that work?  Trek says "come buy our new bike!" where?  no one would have any in stock, except Trek.

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In essence, employees at Trek Dealers/insiders/friends bought most of the existing bikes before the public ever knew they existed and/or had enough information to determine whether they want order one.  That's precisely what I have been hinting at happening for days.  It's crazy to be taking orders and to be delivering bikes before the public announcement is even made. This will not go over well when the bike is finally announced on 3/1 and then anyone who walks in and tries to buy one is told they are already sold out the very day the bike is announced and the moment the store just opened.  It was so backwards.  Just announce the bike, let some eager beavers put orders in and then talk delivery times with everyone else. Now you are announcing a bike a number of people can't even buy right now, which leads them to feel all that cash burning a whole in their pocket and then ask "what else is out there then?"  So crazy, I've never seen a major bike release done this way....


Generally when Trek announces something, stock configurations are on LBS floors within a week. Heck my Project One Emonda was delivered within 3 weeks of announcement last year. This is better than all of their competitors who have really taken the paper launch industry tactic to heart. A bunch of shops ordered what was immediately available to put on the floor, not specifically to snap up for F&F. This is what happens with every release in sizes 54-56-58cm.

You have to realize that the vast majority, nearly everyone, won't even be aware of the Trek Checkpoint's existence until the LBS they walk into has one to show off. Or if someone walks in asking about gravel bikes and the shop employee mentions it.
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I will address both comments in one post.  As for the first, again, I have purchased a number of bikes and followed a bunch of major bike releases and never seen it done this way.  Usually, the bike is announced to the public in some fashion, even if it is a teaser kind of thing.  The shops I worked with in Atlanta were always taking early orders as their stock was coming in.  They could care less whether models hit the floor before you ordered.  They clearly preferred sold bikes instead of having stock on hand.  They knew how to market what was coming and did it well.  I guess different shops can approach that differently though. 

As for the second post, I completely disagree.  Specialized delivers like a well oiled machine in my experience.  You know what is coming out, they get it here relatively quickly and communicate about delivery times.  I ordered one of the first Specialized Allez Sprints to ever come into the country a couple of years ago and the process was the exact opposite of this.  I got my bike well before they had inventory on the floor, but Specialized informed me (little Joe public) that the bike was coming, which provided me with the opportunity to go to my shop and inquire about delivery and get one early on.  Trek went a different direction, which they are entitled to, but I'm not impressed with the process at this point and my guess is a bunch of other people won't be either once the bike is officially announced.  To each his own though.
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I wonder if these will be available through the Project One custom order process?  If so, when?
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I wonder if these will be available through the Project One custom order process?  If so, when?


no, but they did mention that might change in the future
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When I was shopping for a new climbing bike, the Emonda, BMC Teammachine and Tarmac SL6 were all announced in the same timeframe prior to the TdF. Only one was available that week and the other two weren’t in stores until very late August/early September. This was also the case for the Venge ViAS. The Roubaix announcement was handled a bit better from a consumer availability standpoint since it was so late in the year, but that’s because it was mid-autumn and consumer demand drops like a rock headed into winter.

You’re complaining about the lack of availability of a bike that isn’t even officially announced. You’re not an ordinary member of Joe Public. My hunch is these bikes will be plentiful in 1-2 weeks. It’s not like Dexter/Trek doesn’t constantly replenish inventory.
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When I was shopping for a new climbing bike, the Emonda, BMC Teammachine and Tarmac SL6 were all announced in the same timeframe prior to the TdF. Only one was available that week and the other two weren’t in stores until very late August/early September. This was also the case for the Venge ViAS. The Roubaix announcement was handled a bit better from a consumer availability standpoint since it was so late in the year, but that’s because it was mid-autumn and consumer demand drops like a rock headed into winter. You’re complaining about the lack of availability of a bike that isn’t even officially announced. You’re not an ordinary member of Joe Public. My hunch is these bikes will be plentiful in 1-2 weeks. It’s not like Dexter/Trek doesn’t constantly replenish inventory.


Actually, I am complaining about the fact that a bike that's about to be released to the public is already almost sold out.  If you don't find that to be strange, cool.  My experience has just been that shops I have worked with have handled this differently as have other brands.  I disagree on the other part, there are tons of bike enthusiasts like me out there from what I see.  It's about as typical as it gets in many shops.  Just spend an hour reviewing old threads on Roadbikereview, Weight Weenies, or here if you want evidence of that fact....  [wink]
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"what else is out there then?"


After owning various Trek models since the late 80s, if I'm privileged enough to actually find out the details on this bike from the Trek dealer I've been using for over 20 years then come to realize they are all sold out then the answer to your question above will be "plenty." 
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