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SilverbackRacing

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With 40 tires I doubt you'd need iso up front.
Mine will be on order Thursday by 10am. I expect to have it next week.
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That Bike Guy

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With 40 tires I doubt you'd need iso up front. Mine will be on order Thursday by 10am. I expect to have it next week.


Which one are you getting. I'm still trying to decide if this bike is going to be better for me than a Boone but I guess time will tell.
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Which one are you getting. I'm still trying to decide if this bike is going to be better for me than a Boone but I guess time will tell.


I am getting the top carbon as it will likely have better wheels than the lower carbon. After I would upgrade wheels on the lower model I'd be near the higher price anyways. So I get the top end model, ultegra, better wheels and probably a better paint scheme. To me a gravel bike has road gears as opposed to Boone gears. Boone does not enough high end and low end, for me. The new bike will have proper road gearing so it will serve as both my road bike and gravel bike. I'll swap rubber at will. My Domane will then go on the selling block.
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Finally saw one in person today. The high end carbon and it is sick! The paint scheme is the typical Trek matte black but also has sections of a clear gloss over raw carbon that looks sharp! We tested a 700x47 and had tons of clearance still! I would bet you could put a 1.9 or even 2.0 if it is the right tire. Has 4 mounts for bottles and the top tube also has the holes for a small bag mount. By far the best part is the bike doesn't look to "adventure" and could easily have a road tire thrown on and not look stupid. The dropped chainstay is not as noticeable as you would expect either. Get hyped! By far the best bike for the price!

Also heard the frame only option is the Trek Cobra Red color [love]
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Finally saw one in person today. The high end carbon and it is sick! The paint scheme is the typical Trek matte black but also has sections of a clear gloss over raw carbon that looks sharp! We tested a 700x47 and had tons of clearance still! I would bet you could put a 1.9 or even 2.0 if it is the right tire. Has 4 mounts for bottles and the top tube also has the holes for a small bag mount. By far the best part is the bike doesn't look to "adventure" and could easily have a road tire thrown on and not look stupid. The dropped chainstay is not as noticeable as you would expect either. Get hyped! By far the best bike for the price!

Also heard the frame only option is the Trek Cobra Red color [love]


You are getting me all excited over here.  If this all pans out, I plan to order a frameset around 3/1/18.  Looking forward to it.  
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I am following this also.
Cost of the bikes?
Likes and dislikes please.
Thank you.
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Mr E

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I am following this also. Cost of the bikes? Likes and dislikes please. Thank you.


I was hoping the Checkpoint would be closer to a Cutthroat, and the Crockett/Boone would have the clearance of a Warbird.

My perfect bike would be the Checkpoint, with the ground clearance of the Crockett, and clearance for at least 50mm.

It's close!
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The idea of being able to go 47mm wide or wider on a 700cc rim has me over her salivating honestly.  You would have all of the benefits that come with using 650b wheels with none of the compromises (at least in theory).  It also provides a lot more wheel and tire combo options....
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Finally saw one in person today. The high end carbon and it is sick! The paint scheme is the typical Trek matte black but also has sections of a clear gloss over raw carbon that looks sharp! We tested a 700x47 and had tons of clearance still! I would bet you could put a 1.9 or even 2.0 if it is the right tire. Has 4 mounts for bottles and the top tube also has the holes for a small bag mount. By far the best part is the bike doesn't look to "adventure" and could easily have a road tire thrown on and not look stupid. The dropped chainstay is not as noticeable as you would expect either. Get hyped! By far the best bike for the price!

Also heard the frame only option is the Trek Cobra Red color [love]

 

Are there any mid-cage/bottle mounts on the fork?

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I can't wait! Being able to run tires this size will make it the perfect bike for the 210 mile Coast 2 Coast Gravel Grinder that I'm doing in Michigan. The last 70 miles of the race has some pretty sandy sections that tires this wide should roll right over.
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The hardest part now is finding tires in a 47-50mm range!
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The hardest part now is finding tires in a 47-50mm range!

Ummmm... those would be skinny 29'er tires. 
Look for 29x1.9 to 2.0 tires
1.9"x25.4 = 28.25mm


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Ummmm... those would be skinny 29'er tires. 
Look for 29x1.9 to 2.0 tires
1.9"x25.4 = 28.25mm




What kind of math is that?
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What kind of math is that?


Oops, that would be the modern day phat phinger math...  

Should've come out at 48.26mm 

A 1.95" tire should be just under 50mm
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Does anyone with knowledge of this bike think that a Kenda Small block 8, 29x1.9 fit? Or have any other suggestions for a fast rolling 1.9 tire?
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I got really bored of waiting and ordered a new Boone 7. I hate being impatient

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I got really bored of waiting and ordered a new Boone 7. I hate being impatient


The Boone is a great bike.

I ride a 2016 Boone Canti.
Mine will only clear a 38.
Yours is supposed to clear a 40.
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Yeah... I'm excited by the checkpoint but I feel the Boone is a better option for gravel/cross racing. Should be a lighter build thanks to the 600 series carbon on the Boone vs the 500 series of the Checkpoint.
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Yeah... I'm excited by the checkpoint but I feel the Boone is a better option for gravel/cross racing. Should be a lighter build thanks to the 600 series carbon on the Boone vs the 500 series of the Checkpoint.


Boone is definitely a better 'cross bike.
Checkpoint will have too low of a bb for 'cross (if you ride over stuff)

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Yeah... I'm excited by the checkpoint but I feel the Boone is a better option for gravel/cross racing. Should be a lighter build thanks to the 600 series carbon on the Boone vs the 500 series of the Checkpoint.


Cross racing, probably, gravel racing, I'm not so sure. I don't think weight is the primary concern for gravel racing. It's primarily tire volume, mud clearance, preparation for/to avoid flats and mechanical issues, experience, and fitness that gets you through as I understand it. In fact, people have won a number of high profile events on heavier bikes like the Cannondale Slate, 3T Exploro, etc.  Lots of amateurs do well on heavier steel and titanium bikes in many events as well.  Some people are even competitive on hardtail 29er MTBs.  It helps that many of these major events don't have many major climbs in them either.

https://www.cxmagazine.com/winning-bikes-gravel-races-dirty-kanza-lost-and-found
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I'm looking at it for a endurance gravel race bike. I feel comfort over weight is a big plus in these type of races. Big volume tires that can handle all different types of terrein during one race.
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I got really bored of waiting and ordered a new Boone 7. I hate being impatient


I have the Crockett 5 and love it for gravel and road. I can only imagine how much nicer the Boone is! I run 40mm Kenda Flintridges. Those are about as big as you’ll want to go for mud clearance sake. And if you are racing gravel most of the top riders are running 36-38 tires. If you go much wider I’m not sure why you don’t just ride a nice hard tail MTB.
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I know how much Trek loves their iso-speed... Makes me wonder why the new bike isn't equipped with it up front. If any of their bikes deserve it, I would think that this would be the one.


I'm thinking the fore/aft action of IsoSpeed up front isn't really useful on terrain bumpier than cobbles and light gravel. At that point you want vertical travel instead of "splay." So it comes down to whether adding complexity and cost is worth the minimal benefit.
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I got really bored of waiting and ordered a new Boone 7. I hate being impatient


I just got 2017 Boone 7 w/cantis for a deal, to good to pass up. Still at the shop, waiting to switch out a couple of parts.... put 40s on the the day it came in tho. Gonna be fun.
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I'm thinking the fore/aft action of IsoSpeed up front isn't really useful on terrain bumpier than cobbles and light gravel. At that point you want vertical travel instead of "splay." So it comes down to whether adding complexity and cost is worth the minimal benefit.


Yep, just buy a redshift sports which stop stem, and you're set
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