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Rashad F

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Hello all, I have been lurking for a couple of weeks, but this is my first post.  My family and I moved to Denver this week and I am looking to get into the local gravel scene here, which seems to be thriving.  Due to costs associated with the move, I want to ease my way in financially, but still plan to build my first bike from the frameset up.  The new Crockett and Search XR are my two finalists (open to other affordable framesets though).  I would love to hear your thoughts and/or experiences with these two bikes.  I should be able to get a significant discount on the Crockett due to some work relationships, but I really like the Search XR Steel and the ability to run 650b wheels on it as well.  Trek discourages people from running 650b wheels on the Crockett.  I like the weight and internal cable routing and the ability to adjust the rear wheel placement on the Trek.  Fit seems to be similar on both. I welcome any thoughts or advice you have.  Thank you in advance.  


https://www.trekbikes.com/us/en_US/bikes/road-bikes/cyclocross-bikes/crockett/crockett-disc-frameset/p/2486100-2018/?colorCode=black

https://www.norco.com/bikes/road/adventure/search-xr-steel/search-xrs-framefork/



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Dustin.rocco

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I love my 18’ crockett. I got it for Xmas and built it as a SS CX bike. The frame is really snappy and feels quick to maneuver compared to my Boone. The break cable to the rear is a little tight in terms of line bending for my mechanical brake cables. The TRP HY/RD cable angle attachment puts a strong bend getting from the chainstay to the caliper. Other than that, everything else is awesome.

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The Flaanimal 4.0 is a 725 steel frame also. Is $1350 in your budget?
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JSinLR

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Have the 18 Crockett 5 and I love the bike for winter road riding and gravel. I was not looking at the Crockett early on as I was looking for a gravel bike and prior to the 18 model it didn't have what I wanted. But, as you know, Trek updated the Crockett not only to be a good CX bike and decent road bike but now it's a really good gravel bike too. They added 12mm Thru-axles front and back, flat mount disc brake and tire clearance for at least 40C tires. I probably could go a little wider but it might not clear the mud on wetter rides. Besides 40C is pretty good for gravel.

I bought an extra set of wheels and run Hutchinson Sector 28s on the stock wheels for winter road riding and bought some Pacenti Forzas to mount Kenda Flintridge Pros 40C for gravel. Even with an aluminum frame, this is a very smooth riding bike...of course the tires I have that I run at lower pressures (Tubeless on both sets) help. I moved my adjustable axles all the way back mainly for comfort and smoother handling for gravel riding but I leave them that way for road riding too. I have a nice road bike if I really want speed and quick handling. But the Crockett with go in the upper 20's when I need to. It's a good road bike for all but the fastest group rides (only due to gearing). I also added an 11-36 cassette to the gravel wheelset for steeper gravel climbs.

I've not ridden the Norco but I can tell you I love my Crockett. My Trek Madone is gathering dust right now!
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I would buy a complete Crockett, and sell off what you don't need.

It'll cost you less in the end.

If I remember correctly, Crockett hydro line is run internally.

I like 36 or 38mm tires
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neinneinthree

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I called about a Search in steel last week and was told they are already sold out for the entire year and that production for next year’s bike wouldn’t start until August.
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JSinLR

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Buy the 2018 Trek Crockett...you won’t regret it. If you have the money the 2018 Boone is the same bike in Carbon...or you could wait on the new Trek Checkpoint (see other thread) which is more gravel/adventure oriented...it’ll have 2X drivetrain as opposed to 1X with the Crockett / Boone line.
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Rashad F

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Buy the 2018 Trek Crockett...you won’t regret it. If you have the money the 2018 Boone is the same bike in Carbon...or you could wait on the new Trek Checkpoint (see other thread) which is more gravel/adventure oriented...it’ll have 2X drivetrain as opposed to 1X with the Crockett / Boone line.


Thank you for the advice.  The Crockett definitely looks like a solid bargain option.  I have a list of about 4-5 finalists I am currently whittling down.  The new Checkpoint made that list, but the Crockett didn't.  I want to make my decision by 3/1 and then I plan to make a purchase within days of that.  
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Jim_H

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There are some fairly significant geometry differences between the Trek cross bikes and the Search XR.  The Norco is more relaxed, and presumably more comfortable to ride. It's also optimized for 650b or 700c.  I've never ridden the Treks, so I can't say I've actually compared them.

I'm not a racer, and prefer long endurance/adventure rides in the woods (100+ miles) over fast thrashing around a CX course for an hour.  I chose my bike according to those needs.  

I'm not sure where the Boone and Crockett are with 650b compatibility, or if that is of interest to you, but that is one the strengths of the XR.  It has the lowered chainstay and it's geometry is suitable for a 650b or 700c setup, depending on your specific needs.  Some of our fire roads can be harsh and full of washboards and potholes, especially in the spring after snow melt and late fall when the rains start up again.  Having the option of a 47mm 650b for those harsher conditions is nice.  For most of my riding, I'll probably be on 700c X 35mm-40mm depending on the terrain.   I just really like having that versatility.  

Another deciding factor for me was the fact that the top level build (SRAM Force 1) actually came with a decent set of 650b WTB Frequency i23 wheels. I already have several sets of 700c wheels suitable for gravel setups, but didn't own any 650B wheels.  This gave me the chance to ride the bike with this setup without having to invest separately in another set of wheels.

For me, the only downside is that you really must have a local *authorized* Norco dealer if you are going to need any kind of maintenance, support, or warranty stuff done.  Norco does not have any direct to customer support at all. You have to go through a local shop.  This is great if your local shop knows the bikes and has good contacts with the company.   Fortunately, I have the #1 Norco Dealer in North America a few miles from my house, and I can bend the ear of the rep when he's in, and the guys as the shop know the product and technical stuff really well.
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