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Matt.bresler

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Does she actually need a women's specific bike? It sounds like the frames are the same through the range of sizes so unless she is very short and needs a frame size that is smaller than what they offer in the men's version they should be comparable minus the saddle and crank length.


I spoke with Specialized last week while helping out a female friend whose bike had been stolen (and she ended up going with the Diverge Comp alu); the only differences between the men and women's bikes are the saddles, handlebars, and colors.  I think I'm getting one in September.
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It looks to be separate from the stem:

https://roadcyclinguk.com/gear/specialized-reinvent-roubaix-endurance-bike-futureshock-suspension.html#kGu9sfQfWbk5IvSV.97

"FutureShock itself is a cartridge system placed within the steerer tube and provides 20mm of travel. The unit contains three springs, and the upper spring can be changed, with three options available with varying spring rates, so the rider can tweak the feel according to personal preference and the road surfaces on which they typically ride."

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I think that the best value is the $1800  Diverge Comp E5.  It has the same carbon fork, future shock, Axis wheelset and 105 components as the $3000 Diverge Comp with the carbon frame.[end quote] Completely agree! I hadn't looked at that model as I've been shopping to move up to Ultegra from my aluminum 105 equipped Cannondale Synapse (w/ 32c). I agree that's the best deal. Can the future shock be run with any normal stem? I currently run a 120mm 40deg riser stem on my 51 Synapse. Can the future shock take standard stems?
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I have been pretty happy with my Ridley X-Trail for gravel riding. It served me well in some various areas and the DK200 as well. Biggest gripe was the tire clearance, especially the rear. Reading up on the Diverge, I really like its specs. I've been wanting to go to a 1x - Love it on my MTBs. The future shock is appealing for some of the roads/trails I ride. At my age, 51, I appreciate a little plush to my ride when possible. So, mine is on order, an S-Works edition. Should have it in by the end of the summer in time for some gravel events this fall.
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I stopped in the LBS this weekend to check out the Diverge in person. They didn't have anything near my size, so no chance to ride one, but they are nice! Unfortunately for me (or fortunately for my wallet) they can't get their hands on my size any time soon.

They seem to be pretty similar to the Roubaix with a slightly taller head tube and more tire clearance. Overall, a very road-capable bike with some added gravel ability. I want one!
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got the go-ahead from the Minister of Finance to go for a Diverge.  Looking at the Expert, probably will add a power meter as my only add-on.  Quite a happy camper.  [biggrin]
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Congrats! Are you staying with the stock tires?
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What power meter?
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does that crazy low bottom bracket bother anyone?  I get enough pedal smack with 70mm drop.  I tried last years diverge and it was too low - this year's is even lower.  

I guess it is the old stability vs agility debate...
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What exactly do you mean by "tire smack"?
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corrected to read "pedal smack"   I power through corners and hit pedal...
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I am also interested in the 2018 Diverge Expert model.  It seems to have everything I want with no mods needed.  

Does anyone know when these will become available?  All all my local shops look it up, they have no estimated availability.  

Thanks!
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I ordered an Expert from my local shop. They said by the end of July.
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I ordered an Expert from my local shop. They said by the end of July.


No way!  I was told from several shops that ordering wasn't even possible.  One guy told me he thought they would come at the end of September. 

Where is your shop located?  I will have to inquire again.  
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I don't think it is technically ordering. Basically the shop it's in specific size that they want on the shipment. It's in Lawrence Kansas.
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I don't think it is technically ordering. Basically the shop it's in specific size that they want on the shipment. It's in Lawrence Kansas.


Gotcha...I have the word in with the manager at my main local shop to notify me when they do come in.  

I did get to test ride the aluminum version with the future shock last week.  And it's fantastic.  Night and day difference from my Tarmac.  Geometry is so relaxed and the shock really soaks up the bumps, curbs, pot holes, etc. but doesn't at all feel awkward when on smooth flat roads.  The cable disc brakes were a little strange and slow to engage (which I understand is normal for road bike disc brakes).  I'm hoping the hydraulic brakes on the Expert are a bit more aggressive and more like a hydraulic on a mt. bike.
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My wife was able to order one from a bike shop (Erik's) in KC about a month ago and we actually were able to pick it up at the end of June. Your shop should be able to request one through their distributor. We had to put 50% down on the bike when they ordered it.
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Congrats! Are you staying with the stock tires?


yeah, I have a good bit of time on a set of Trigger Pro 38c tires, so I'm quite pleased with them.  I have a few wheelsets laying around that I'm going to consider some other options, like a set of full knobbies on one wheelset, and a set of 30-32c Roubaix 'slicks' for another wheelset, just to round things out.  But the Trigger Pro tires are a really underrated tire, and Specialized tires (and Roval wheels) are kinda underrated overall.  For the $$$, they are pretty damn good value (unlike quite a few of Specialized's bikes at various price points, hehe....)

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What power meter?

this guy:
Quarq power meter spider

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I am also interested in the 2018 Diverge Expert model.  It seems to have everything I want with no mods needed.  

Does anyone know when these will become available?  All all my local shops look it up, they have no estimated availability.  


my LBS got 3 in during their intial order (the store manager was furious that the owner only wanted to start off with 3). They were gone in under a week. Surprise!

Yeah, right now, LBS said 'no availability date' but they put my order in for a 56cm Expert (the grey/black/red one).
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Thanks for the great information sgtrobo!  LBS said the same thing:  no availability date

This will be the first bike that I am considering having a 2nd wheel set.  However, the Rovals it comes with are $750 + $100 for cassette, and it gets pricey quickly.  What do most people do?  Swap tires?  Or is there another good equivalent / cheaper wheel set? 

For pedals - I will probably go with eggbeaters which I've had on all my mt. bikes.  I have a new set of eggbeater 3s already, but the bearing seems a bit stiff (doesn't spin more than a half turn when to flick the pedal)  Hoping it will loosen up as I ride it.  My old ones spin about 10 times around when I flick the pedal, but they're about 5 years old.   
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My wife was able to order one from a bike shop (Erik's) in KC



Erik's are in Kansas??  There is no stopping Erik the Bike Man.


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Call or email Brandon at BHS:
1 Ashley Wade Lane
Building 7000B
Chapel Hill, NC 27517

Tel: (919) 626-2471
Email: sales@bikehubstore.com

I would go with Bitex hubs and Kinlin rims.  You should be able to build a set of wheels that are superior to the Roval's for way less cost.


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Thanks for the great information sgtrobo!  LBS said the same thing:  no availability date

This will be the first bike that I am considering having a 2nd wheel set.  However, the Rovals it comes with are $750 + $100 for cassette, and it gets pricey quickly.  What do most people do?  Swap tires?  Or is there another good equivalent / cheaper wheel set? 

For pedals - I will probably go with eggbeaters which I've had on all my mt. bikes.  I have a new set of eggbeater 3s already, but the bearing seems a bit stiff (doesn't spin more than a half turn when to flick the pedal)  Hoping it will loosen up as I ride it.  My old ones spin about 10 times around when I flick the pedal, but they're about 5 years old.   
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This will be the first bike that I am considering having a 2nd wheel set.  However, the Rovals it comes with are $750 + $100 for cassette, and it gets pricey quickly.  What do most people do?  Swap tires?  Or is there another good equivalent / cheaper wheel set? 
 


Good question.  

That kind of problem has me buying older bikes off of craigslist - as I have a fair number of good 700c hoops for bikes with rim brakes.  

Purchasing a new bike that needs a second set of wheels (for different drop outs and different brakes) is prohibitive.  But you could always get lucky and find a set of take off rims on craigslist that are tubeless ready.  Getting used equipment with "this years fashion trend standard" is difficult though.

Swapping tubeless tires around isn't very practical.   Personally, I need a set of fast road tires, and a set of good gravel tires for my bike.
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No way!  I was told from several shops that ordering wasn't even possible.  One guy told me he thought they would come at the end of September. 

Where is your shop located?  I will have to inquire again.  


My wife has a Women's Carbon Comp (size 56) on order and I have the Expert on order since the end of June.  We were originally told late July or early Aug and now it seems that may have been pushed back to Sep on the Expert and LATE Sep on the Woman's Carbon Comp.

That is no bueno.   :-(
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Thanks for the great information sgtrobo!  LBS said the same thing:  no availability date
This will be the first bike that I am considering having a 2nd wheel set.  However, the Rovals it comes with are $750 + $100 for cassette, and it gets pricey quickly.  What do most people do?  Swap tires?  Or is there another good equivalent / cheaper wheel set?  


$750 for a wheelset of that lightweight and quality is pretty darn good.  The Axis 4.0's should have endcaps that can work with the Diverge, and they're not boat anchors (and pretty darn cheap), might want to give them a try


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Call or email Brandon at BHS:
1 Ashley Wade Lane
Building 7000B
Chapel Hill, NC 27517

Tel: (919) 626-2471
Email: sales@bikehubstore.com

I would go with Bitex hubs and Kinlin rims.  You should be able to build a set of wheels that are superior to the Roval's for way less cost.


wow, those Bitex hubs are pretty crazy priced for their low weight!  Are they "clyde-friendly"?  I pretty much annihilate rear hubs with the way I tend to torque them (115kg 'retired' powerlifter).  Took me about 3 or 4 weeks to nearly destroy a rear Neo hub that came with a Stan's wheelset
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Did anyone end up buying a 2018 Diverge?  There seemed to be a lot of interest.  A review by any owners would be great.
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